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 Post subject: Earth that is not Cursed
PostPosted: October 11th, 2011, 2:12 am 
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When Adam and Eve fell, they came under sin's curse. At the same time, the earth came under the same curse.

In Murel, the forest paradise of Florei' is my equivalent to Eden. My question is, would it be theologically ok to exclude the nature of Florei' from sin's curse? The rest of Murel would be under the curse, just not Florei'.

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PostPosted: October 11th, 2011, 2:45 am 
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On earth, Eden wasn't cursed, just cut off from the rest of the earth. Would Florei' be cut off from the rest of Murel?

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Seconded Jonathan. :)

It all depends on whether there'd be access to Florei or not. If Adorem and (I forget Eve's name in your world. :blush:) can still access Florei than they've not really fallen; just been 'deported,' so to speak.

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To think I thought I was being unique. ;)

I don't theologically see a problem with it, but I'm no theologian.

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I agree with Jonathan and eru, your people shouldn't be able to access it. :) But otherwise I see no problem.

I need to check into this world of yours sometime, it sounds awesomely cool. :cool:

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Well, basically, if it is somehow under man's dominion, then it should be cursed. But if it doesn't belong to men, then it can be pure.

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In a way, Florei is cut off from the rest of Murel. At some point in history, Florei became separated from the mainland of Murel (I'm thinking this will either happen immediately after the fall or during my equivalent of the flood). However, because Florei is located at the west pole, there are large quantities of ice that can be traversed to get to Florei.

Florei is also separated from the rest of Murel in another way. After the fall the ice phoenix created a large dome of ice that completely covers Florei and keeps it from the harsh winter that surrounds it. It is impossible to get inside unless the ice phoenix breaks the dome, lets you in, and then creates another dome.

However, I still want to let certain characters in every once in awhile (for example, in my current world building for my equivalent of the flood, my "Noahs" survive by entering Florei and residing within Florei's dome til the danger has passed). Is that theologically ok?

eruheran wrote:
If Adorem and (I forget Eve's name in your world :blush: ) can still access Florei than they've not really fallen; just been 'deported,' so to speak.

(*chuckles* Those names are only temporary til I figure out the language anyways. ;) )
No, my Adam and Eve don't have access to Florei again in their lifetimes. In fact, anyone attempting to enter Florei usually gets themselves killed by the ice phoenix (exception for very special cases (like in the flood)).

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To think I thought I was being unique. ;)

*chuckles*

Aniese of Learsi wrote:
I need to check into this world of yours sometime, it sounds awesomely cool. :cool:

Thanks. :D

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Well, basically, if it is somehow under man's dominion, then it should be cursed. But if it doesn't belong to men, then it can be pure.

No, it isn't under man's dominion. It's been put off limits by God except for special reasons (unless, of course, there is a problem with that in which case I'll think of some other world building).

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