To keep the Weapons from Before 50 B.C. thread from straying too far off topic, I started this thread for a discussion that started there about pre-flood technology. Here is what has been said so far in that discussion:

Continued.

*doesn't have much time, but will post a bit and come back later *

I doubt they are connected.

Okay, moon pool. This is gonna be very short.

The ark may have had what is called a “moon-pool” in the center of it. Larger type ships have used this in the past. Basically, it is a hole in the center of the bottom of the boat with walls extending up into the ship. There are several reasons for a moon pool feature:

First, it allows water to go up into the hole as the ship crested waves, giving the ship more stability (so it didn't flip in the water), and also helps relieve strain on the frame of a longer, larger ship.

Secondly, the rising and lowering water inside the moon pool acts as a piston to pump fresh air in and out of the ship. This is useful for two obvious reasons. Doubtless it would have gotten hot in that ark, and with the ship closed up (in an effort to keep the outside elements of the catastrophic flood out) you would need some sort of ventilation system. Also, a moon pool ventilation system would prevent the buildup of dangerous gasses from all the animals on board and supply fresh air.

Thirdly, the moon pool would have been a great place for the Noah Family to dump trash, without going outside the ship. *will not get into the possible ways animal waste could have been dealt with, on the ark *

That is a very short overview but you get the point.

I love listening to John Morris talk about searching for the ark. He's the Granddaddy of creation science ark searchers, or so he is affectionately known now.

Wow, is this intriguing or what?! Most of the inventions were probably by single people and not groups, since greed was a driving force. As...Milly, I think?...anyways, as somebody said, their lives were a lot longer, so they could have provided the foundation on which to work on and the products that resulted by themselves... the advancement of their technology was probably mostly in the area of weapons; those would help them get what they wanted. But then again, maybe not. Can you imagine somebody with an amplifier? Boom your voice out over the hills, and strike fear into the hearts of your enemies.... >:]

Here's the Wikipedia page on the ancient computer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

And the battery.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad_Battery

I was working on a novel one time called Noah set in a sort of anime-steampunk-totalitarian-futuristic state, working off of the idea that there is no limit to the technology they could have had before the flood. Indeed, space travel may have even been possible, which would mean... *Alien Invasion!*

I just got to visit the Creation Museum, which has a lot of info on the flood.

Yesh, the Creation Museum is one of my dream vacation spots...unfortunately I'm one of the lucky people that live in the 1/3 of North America that's way too far away... Oh well, someday.

Anyway, I was going to try and contribute here, if people are still interested in resources...Noah's Ark: Thinking Outside the Box is a short video (24 minutes) about how Noah may have built the ark (I think they mention the possibility of a moon pool), it was very interesting and I think very thought-provoking.

These are from before the flood?

Not likely. But, these are just many... anomalies... in history, that lend credence to the claim that the civilization could have been very advanced back then.

If not, you can make one .

Just as an FYI, Keith Robinson and I discussed this in a podcast on Monday. When it is available, I will be sure and point you all to it.

Mod note: This post was posted on Mon May 14, 2012 at 12:28 pm.

We talked about technology and the inteligence of ancient man. Keith knows his stuff. Everything he said I have done research on in the past. He's got evidence to back up his claims.

Discuss please?

What kind of anomalies are you talking about?

Well, anomalies in the typical Stone Age, Tool Age, Bronze Age, Iron Age timeline. Hot airs balloons were documented as being used in the B.C. area to perform burials at sea. The ancient (was it Phonecians?), whom we know little about, explored the better part of the world with their advanced navigation techniques. What looks like a mechanical computer of sorts was found in South America, dating back at least fifteen centuries. The Aztecs, Egyptians, Celts... they all created massive works that survive to this day, illustrating the fact that they must have had very advanced knowledge of geometry and algebra. Some works in South America show the clear need for aerial observation and planning.

And this makes sense, Biblically. Within three generations of creation you have tools, musical instruments... all sorts of stuff.

And it is up, guys.

Mod note: This post was posted on Mon Jun 11, 2012 at 11:25 am.

Interesting about the Nephilim. Are we sure that the Nephilim are actually related the Sons of God? Something he didn't talk about was the atmosphere of the Pre-flood world and how it may have affected things as well.

We're not sure of anything. Keith is very upfront about the fact that there are some things the Bible just doesn't give us enough info on. Keith did his studies and chose what he felt was the best possibility, and used it for his book. Not everyone will agree. Not everyone has to. It's one of those subjects that won't affect your salvation, and God is not clear on, so we must simply take our most educated, Biblically informed, guess.

And poor Keith! He only had so much time, so we fit everything we could in the episode. I plan on interviewing him again. There were so many things we didn't talk about.

And that's where imagination takes over. There was a time in which people believed in a canopy of water vapor surrounding the earth and providing higher air pressure and a uniform climate to the globe, but that view has since fallen out of favor. I'll have to check out his books to see what he does with that.