*agrees *

Thankyou for this, men. * smiles * I promise I'll hold you to it.

I am sorry that it seemed that way. It did not occur to me that you thought they were unimportant or unrelated, since if you did I expected that you would not mention it, or edit it out of the Declaration and maybe start a thread some where else about them. It was because I thought they were not as important as the rest of the declaration that I gave only a brief explanation of why I excepted them. But since you still want me to sign to those two points, how would they be unimportant?

Me too, I was talking about men in general, single or married, since it was the subject of the Declaration. I was using fathers as an example, because their responsibilities are obviously based on their relation to their family. I think that in the same way men have responsibilities because of their relation to women, simply because they are men. However I do believe they have strengths because they are men, I do not want you to think I do not agree with that.

Should I start a different thread about different sisterhoods? It does not seem to fit here.

The issues you're picking on are not pertinent to the declaration...i.e., you're missing the point of what I wrote.

Exactly, they do have specific strengths because they are men, and that is what I'm saying they should USE in order to be strong, Godly men in their relationships with females.

If you want to start a thread about the sister thing, go ahead. I'm not sure if I'll get involved, though.

If the rest of the Declaration is the point then I did not miss it, I signed to it.

I did not think they were important, but I thought you thought so, because you seemed concerned that I left them out, and seemed to be trying to convince me that they should be part of the Declaration.



But since what I thought you meant was not what you meant, let us not talk about it anymore, and leave it at that.

Something I made for y'all.

... That's really awesome Bushy! I like the font, and the picture, and ...everything.

That is awesome and epic, all at once, Aussie!

*agrees*

Wow...

Glad you like it, guys.

This is so sweet... you guys are awesome.

With the exception that I know I cannot live perfectly according to this declaration because I am a weak sinner, and relying on God's grace and mercy when I stumble, and His power to better fashion me into such a man...

I do solemnly affirm.
Zachary Totah

*digs this wonderful thread out of obscurity so that new members can see it *

I wrote a blog post on this today. For those interested, it can be found here.