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 Post subject: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 16th, 2011, 11:58 am 
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Chat room summoning has been temporarily disabled pending a discussion about whether or not to continue supporting this feature. Chat summoning currently uses 4 times more server load than all the rest of all of HW combined. It's also been a controversial feature since it was implemented, giving us the option to drop it altogether.

We will keep you updated on further developments. Meanwhile, those are the reasons for the temporary disabling as announced in the chat room. Thank you for your patience.

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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 16th, 2011, 12:02 pm 
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Thank you. :salute:

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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 16th, 2011, 4:47 pm 
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Ahh, So sad. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 16th, 2011, 6:24 pm 
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I shall patiently mourn the loss of summoning. ;)


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PostPosted: December 17th, 2011, 9:30 am 
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I hope this isn't permanent. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 17th, 2011, 10:42 am 
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Agreed, Misty. Summoning is a handy tool, especially when one wants to talk to someone who has problems seeing PMs immediately (me, for example :P). As long as summoning is used properly, it is an asset to the chat room.

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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 17th, 2011, 12:02 pm 
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Would making the new messages indicator more prominent help?


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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 17th, 2011, 12:05 pm 
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What if you got a pop up message when you were on and you got a PM? I don't care much for chat summoning. :P Or, you could disallow chat summoning, so it couldn't be used on people who toggled the off button in the UCP, if that's possible?

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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 17th, 2011, 12:10 pm 
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That's already an option, actually, in your UCP.


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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 17th, 2011, 12:10 pm 
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Really! Oops, I didn't realize.

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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 17th, 2011, 4:30 pm 
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Well, having a popup when I get a PM would work too.

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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 17th, 2011, 4:51 pm 
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Sir Emeth Mimetes wrote:
Would making the new messages indicator more prominent help?
*Agrees*
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Well, having a popup when I get a PM would work too.
*Also agrees*
That might solve the no-summoning issue right there.

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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 17th, 2011, 6:39 pm 
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I also think a pop-up box would be good.
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Try turning on pop-up notifications of new private messages in your UCP then. Let me know how it goes. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 17th, 2011, 6:46 pm 
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Ok :) Someone PM me and I'll see if it works!

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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 17th, 2011, 7:41 pm 
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Yes, it works! Awesome! I had to set my settings on my laptop to say that I would allow pop ups from Holy Worlds, then it worked. :)

Thank you, Jay!

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Renewed shall be blade that was broken,
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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 18th, 2011, 4:18 am 
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Right, you'll have to whitelist HW in your popup blocker settings, but it should work otherwise. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
PostPosted: December 18th, 2011, 4:29 pm 
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Hm. If I understand correctly, you must load another page in order to get the pop-ups from any PMs that have arrived, whereas summoning would pop-up without the loading of a page. Using PMs instead of summoning work work more easily if PMs popped up the way summoning did. Or was that part of the server drain? :P

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That's exactly what makes the server drain, yes. Popups when you change pages is frequent enough, I would think.


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Sir Emeth Mimetes wrote:
That's exactly what makes the server drain, yes. Popups when you change pages is frequent enough, I would think.

This is just a random suggestion I'm throwing out there, but what if summons popped up in a new window like the popup pms notifications, and/or in your pm inbox.

Oh, and the pop up pms thing is working. :D

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Like an auto-pm? That might work.


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Sir Emeth Mimetes wrote:
Like an auto-pm? That might work.

Yea, that's what I was thinking.

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Might be doable.


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 Post subject: Re: Chatroom Summoning
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I have a solution for this that vastly reduces server load without affecting functionality; it's what we use on ArtVoyagers. I'm no longer volunteering for HW, but if somebody wants to hire me, I'm available. :)

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HW does not have the funds to hire anyone at this point, Dieki. Thank you for bringing this up, though. :)

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Airianna Valenshia wrote:
HW does not have the funds to hire anyone at this point, Dieki. Thank you for bringing this up, though.


Alrighty, I kinda expected that. :)

A few months ago I filled Jay and Andrew in on the details of this solution, so maybe they'll implement it. They haven't yet, though, so I kinda doubt they will. :P

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Our funds are going to HW's upkeep at the moment.

I can vouch for the fact that Jay and Andrew have been extremely busy recently, and have worked on some other projects. Hopefully though, this will eventually be able to be done.

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PostPosted: February 16th, 2012, 1:10 pm 
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This probably isn't applicable anymore, but if we wanted to do away with summoning and just do PMs, it might help if the PMs would make a little pop-down like on Sci-fi. :) I find that better than having a new window come up that announces I have a PM.

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I love the window, personally. :D

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