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PostPosted: September 6th, 2011, 6:59 am 
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Nicely written, Brendan. A few thinks I noticed:

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Ever since then, most fantasy writers whether Christian or otherwise have followed in their steps and written their stories on grand scale.


I think there should be a comma before whether Christian or otherwise, and then a comma again after otherwise.

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After all, it’s not only the great heroes who bring down dark lords who have interesting stories.


This is a little uncomfortable to read, maybe you could change the 'who have interesting stories' to 'that have interesting stories'?

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Look at Dickens Henty or more recently in terms of historical authors Douglas Bond, most the characters in their novels are not the great historical characters of the world, but people living in great historical time


I think there should be a comma between the Dickens and the Henty, and after Douglas Bond I would put a semi colon.

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A small low powered magic item might seem useless to great wizards such as Gandalf or Saruman but could turn the life of an entire village upside down.


I think you need a comma after Saruman here.


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That’s because the thoughts which go through the mind of a soldier (survival, fear of the enemy, commitment to duty) are a lot closer to what we have experienced then the weight of responsibility which falls on the chosen one to defeat the dark lord.


I think you could do with a comma after experienced, and you mean than not then, I think. :)

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If done well, in a God honoring way and can be used to remind us of God’s presence in our individual troubles just as Epic Fantasy helps us to look at God’s glorious plan in its entirety.


This doesn't make sense, there something wrong with the beginning that doesn't match with the rest of the sentence.

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 Post subject: Re: Non Epic Fantasy
PostPosted: September 6th, 2011, 9:54 am 
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I really like this, Ines. Lots of good thoughts for Fantasy writers, as well as sci-fi and historical fiction. You might consider broadening it to include those genres, especially since you use Historical Fiction examples.

When you say "less important people"... that doesn't sound quite right. They're not really less important, are they? More like, less well-known or something... I'm not sure.

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Personally I don’t think so. You see, when you focus on the less important folk in fantasy everything is magnified. A small band of orcs for example, don’t pose much of a threat to mighty heroes like Aragorn, but each individual orc could pose a threat to a small country farmer. A small low powered magic item might seem useless to great wizards such as Gandalf or Saruman but could turn the life of an entire village upside down.



Another strength fantasy has from a non-epic perspective, is that the people in them are easier to identify with. Not many of us know how it would feel to lead a battle, but it’s a lot easier to imagine ourselves fighting in one. That’s because the thoughts which go through the mind of a soldier (survival, fear of the enemy, commitment to duty) are a lot closer to what we have experienced then the weight of responsibility which falls on the chosen one to defeat the dark lord.


These are good observations, but can you give some more? Can you expound a little? I'd like to see another paragraph or two giving suggestions and reasons when it comes to focusing on more humble characters.

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If done well, in a God honoring way and can be used to remind us of God’s presence in our individual troubles just as Epic Fantasy helps us to look at God’s glorious plan in its entirety. So that’s the end of my rant on non-epic fantasy. Not trying to bring you epic fantasy writers down, Epic Fantasy is awesome and a great way to glorify God. Just wanted to broaden the horizons.


This paragraph seems a little too casual for an otherwise professional post.

I hope this is helpful! Thanks for the thoughts! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Non Epic Fantasy
PostPosted: September 8th, 2011, 4:49 pm 
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My dear brother, this is ready to post today. If you have the post edited, I can go ahead and have my lovely little elf post it for you. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Non Epic Fantasy
PostPosted: September 11th, 2011, 9:17 am 
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Did this get posted, Brendan?

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PostPosted: September 26th, 2011, 1:32 pm 
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Brendan, did you ever post this?

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PostPosted: September 26th, 2011, 1:39 pm 
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Brendan! For shame! :o

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 Post subject: Re: Non Epic Fantasy
PostPosted: September 26th, 2011, 1:43 pm 
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I know! I keep poking this topic. :P I summoned him this time, though. *nod nods * We shall get an answer from him yet, even if his big sister has to go have a talk with him. :twisted:

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PostPosted: September 26th, 2011, 1:45 pm 
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I mean, seriously - he's a Council Member and the head of the editors! Try to put on a good example for the lower ranks, Brendan. ;)

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*giggles *

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This is now on Brendan's To-Do list. :D

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Ideas can germinate from the smallest seeds. Collect those seeds, and let them grow in the back of your mind. You may be surprised by what finally blooms.

When God takes something from your grasp, he's not punishing you. Instead, He’s opening your hands to receive something better. The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.

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This thread is now ready to be archived. Thanks to all for their participation.

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Ideas can germinate from the smallest seeds. Collect those seeds, and let them grow in the back of your mind. You may be surprised by what finally blooms.

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You are forgiven. :)

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Ideas can germinate from the smallest seeds. Collect those seeds, and let them grow in the back of your mind. You may be surprised by what finally blooms.

When God takes something from your grasp, he's not punishing you. Instead, He’s opening your hands to receive something better. The will of God will never take you where the Grace of God will not protect you.

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