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Author:  Constable Jaynin Mimetes [ June 30th, 2011, 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Notice Regarding Private Chats!

Update 7/7/2011: With the new chatroom, this issue has been resolved.

I wanted to make this an announcement to make sure as many people see it as possible to prevent awkward situations. I'll leave it up as a global announcement over the weekend, and then archive it. If you wish to discuss the subject in more detail please refer to this thread in Q&A.

I may be sounding slightly over paranoid about the issue, but things that look private and aren't are potentially the most dangerous thing in the social networking world and I figured it was better just to sound paranoid for a couple of days and make sure everyone knows about it then to deal with a situation caused by people not knowing about it.

The short version is that anything you say in a private chat can be read by various people, since it's not actually private, so please keep genuinely private information to PMs or e-mails, etc. Dieki's very helpful technical description is below.

Dieki Kondrael wrote:
When you post a normal chat, it gets sent to the Holy Worlds server, which then sends it off to all the computers currently connected to chat. When you post a private chat, it still sends it to all the computers, even the ones that aren't supposed to see it. However, it includes an instruction telling those computers not to display the post, just to forget it's there.

However, some browsers ignore those instructions, so some people are still seeing the chat. It's also possible to tell your computer to ignore these instructions, but none of us are malicious enough to do that. ;)

The right way to do it is the have the Holy Worlds server only send the private chats to the computers which are actually supposed to have it. That would make reading other people's private chats impossible. Unfortunately it's very difficult to do within the current chat framework.

Now, this isn't the only thing that's hard to do with the current chat system. There's a bunch of other stuff we want - chat logs, separate rooms, avatars, and more. For this reason, we've decided that chat needs a complete rewrite, which I'm working on right now. The new chat does private chatting right, so nobody will be able to see it.

Until then, I recommend that you use PMs instead of HW Chat for stuff you don't want other people to see. :D

Author:  Svensteel Mimetes [ July 2nd, 2011, 1:08 pm ]
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Thanks for posting, Cane!

Author:  Svensteel Mimetes [ July 3rd, 2011, 7:14 pm ]
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Author:  Airianna Valenshia [ July 3rd, 2011, 7:23 pm ]
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This is a problem we will fix. Don't panic, we have a spammer, and it is being taken care of.

Author:  Svensteel Mimetes [ July 3rd, 2011, 8:01 pm ]
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Airianna Valenshia wrote:
This is a problem we will fix. Don't panic, we have a spammer, and it is being taken care of.


PANIC!!! OH NOOO!
Hehe... just kidding! ;)
Just funny that you said not to panic. I don't over react! *sobs loudly*

*serious hat on*

Ooh... someone is getting their account deleted! To the ACP! What a worthless thing to spam about... runescape :roll:

Author:  Airianna Valenshia [ July 3rd, 2011, 8:16 pm ]
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Yep, the spammer irritated me, he got deleted promptly.

Author:  Svensteel Mimetes [ July 3rd, 2011, 8:22 pm ]
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Cool! Nice job Vanya! :dieshappy:

Author:  Constable Jaynin Mimetes [ July 3rd, 2011, 8:27 pm ]
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That wasn't me. That was Airi. :P

Actually, I was the one to delete the posts, but you couldn't have known that... so credit goes to Airianna.

Author:  Airianna Valenshia [ July 3rd, 2011, 8:33 pm ]
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We still get mistaken, Katie. *shakes head and still does not understand *

Author:  Svensteel Mimetes [ July 3rd, 2011, 8:51 pm ]
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It's the white!

Author:  Rachel Newhouse [ July 3rd, 2011, 9:06 pm ]
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Airianna Valenshia wrote:
We still get mistaken, Katie. *shakes head and still does not understand *


It's because we love you both SO much! ;)

Author:  Svensteel Mimetes [ July 4th, 2011, 10:06 am ]
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Two awesome people are often mistaken for each other!

Author:  Suiauthon Mimetes [ July 5th, 2011, 1:36 am ]
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I never get you two mixed up.
You are Kaitlyn. *points at Kaitlyn*
And you are Vanya. *points at Vanya*

See? ;)

Author:  Reiyen [ July 5th, 2011, 4:49 pm ]
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Can anyone say thread derail?

Not to deny anything said... About spammers and otherwise...

Author:  Svensteel Mimetes [ July 5th, 2011, 4:53 pm ]
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That is very true! Thank you, Reiyen! Ok let's get this back on topic!

Author:  Dieki Kondrael [ July 7th, 2011, 6:50 pm ]
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The new chat is now live, so this is no longer an issue. You can private chat in perfect secrecy now. :D

Author:  Constable Jaynin Mimetes [ July 7th, 2011, 6:58 pm ]
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I forgot to disassemble this... :roll:

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