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Author:  Lady Eruwaedhiel [ May 10th, 2011, 10:48 am ]
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I discovered this oddity recently:

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Is this a post that has been hidden by the sender? Is it a glitch? Or is it a Dieki-ism only? :P

E

Author:  Aragorn [ May 10th, 2011, 11:00 am ]
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That's a post hidden by the sender.

Author:  Rachel Newhouse [ May 10th, 2011, 11:02 am ]
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Is a "hidden" chat different than a "private" chat between selected people? :?

Author:  Aragorn [ May 10th, 2011, 11:04 am ]
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It's the same thing, unless the person sends something to himself (such as a sound effect, so that it hides who did it temporarily).

Author:  Rachel Newhouse [ May 10th, 2011, 2:47 pm ]
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Ah, okay. Thanks, Jonathan.

Author:  Aragorn [ May 10th, 2011, 3:44 pm ]
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You're welcome. I'm hoping I'm right... I'm just going by what I've witnessed in chat. :D

Author:  Elanhil [ May 11th, 2011, 6:50 am ]
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What is with the numbers at the far right of your chat posts?!

Author:  Lady Eruwaedhiel [ May 11th, 2011, 9:58 am ]
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Eh, that's the "delete post" button. I have no clue why it shows up like that. :P

Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ May 14th, 2011, 3:43 pm ]
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@Lady E: Somewhat off-topic, but it shouldn't be like that :P Try changing your browser's text encoding to UTF-8 (how to do that changes browser-by-browser but El Goog probably has some tips :D)

eru

Author:  Lady Eruwaedhiel [ May 15th, 2011, 7:02 pm ]
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It's already set to UTF-8. (I found the way to change it in FF4 -- View > Character Encoding.)

Ohh, and I CAN only see these half-posts after I refresh the page. I didn't realize that.

Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ May 16th, 2011, 5:49 am ]
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Strange :P

eru

Author:  Manda Kondrael [ May 16th, 2011, 6:30 am ]
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Those are just private chats. :) I don't know why Dieki made it so you can see half of them if the page is refreshed...

Author:  Bethany Faith [ May 16th, 2011, 7:02 am ]
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Amanda Kondrael wrote:
Those are just private chats. :) I don't know why Dieki made it so you can see half of them if the page is refreshed...


*whispers* That way you can know whether or not the chat is really silent...or people are whispering without your knowledge. ;)

Or...you know, he probably had another reason. :roll: I just don't know it.

Author:  BushMaid [ May 16th, 2011, 5:09 pm ]
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Hope no one has refreshed the page when I private chat, because usually I'm talking to myself! :shock: I guess that would just prove what everyone has already deducted...

Author:  Bethany Faith [ May 16th, 2011, 5:15 pm ]
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BushMaid wrote:
I guess that would just prove what everyone has already deducted...


That you're epicly awesome? ;)

Author:  Reiyen [ May 16th, 2011, 10:37 pm ]
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Bethany Faith wrote:
BushMaid wrote:
I guess that would just prove what everyone has already deducted...


That you're epicly awesome? ;)

Awesome one of the words you could use... :D

Author:  Leandra Falconwing [ May 16th, 2011, 11:08 pm ]
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Somewhat related (if I should have made this a separate topic, I do apologize), occasionally when people are using private chat, non-private chats will not be shown and only become visible on refreshing the page.

Author:  Constable Jaynin Mimetes [ May 17th, 2011, 12:16 am ]
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In other words, we suspect that secret chat generate a kind of gravitational pull that will suck nearby chats into their vortex of secretness. This would explain the oft-referred to phrase "Chat ate my post! :shock: "

You know you're a crazy scifi writer when you start using gravitational fields to explain forum bugs instead of the traditional magical explanations.

Author:  Aragorn [ May 17th, 2011, 12:20 am ]
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Sometimes when chat is very busy, and sometimes when people are conversing in secret chat, I've had chat posts disappear entirely and not reappear when the page is refreshed.

Author:  Neil of Erk [ May 17th, 2011, 8:22 am ]
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It's probably because the chat doesn't like me, but I haven't been able to see people's posts for some time now. I just see a name next to a blank space.

Incidentally, I can't see my posts either.

Author:  Constable Jaynin Mimetes [ May 17th, 2011, 9:36 am ]
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That's the same thing that happened to Dri! It's not a fluke then.

Perhaps if we can figure out what you two have in common we can figure out what is going on. *ponders, and awaits the experts*

Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ May 17th, 2011, 10:24 am ]
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What browser are you using, Neil? Dri said he was using IE7, which is an older browser, so it could be some quirk from older browsers....Dieki would know :P

eru

Author:  Neil of Erk [ May 18th, 2011, 1:20 pm ]
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I'm using a recent edition of firefox. I have several ad-blocker and pop-up blocker additions running. I'm running Windows Vista.

Author:  Dieki Kondrael [ May 19th, 2011, 8:27 pm ]
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If you are running something like NoScript, chat will be broken. Possibly ditto for popup blockers, depends on how they work. :)


Oh, and the reason for the half-chats is a technical limitation. Someday I'd like to redo the chat system from scratch, but until then... we'll just have to live with it. :P

Author:  Elanhil [ May 20th, 2011, 7:38 am ]
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I also happen to know (from experience) that a slow connection can damage chat pretty badly...

Author:  Neil of Erk [ May 20th, 2011, 8:30 am ]
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My connection is excellent, so that shouldn't be a problem.

The thing is that not being able to choose the chat is a very recent development. I haven't added any plug-ins to my browser for a long time.

I'm fairly certain I'm not running NoScript. I think the pop-up blocker is just part of the ad-blocker plug-in. (Ad-Blocker Plus. It's free from the Firefox add-ons page. I'm also running another Ad-Blocker Plus script that facilitates its function on Windows, I believe.)

Author:  Dieki Kondrael [ May 20th, 2011, 8:37 am ]
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How recent? I made some big changes a few months ago, but nothing in the past few days.

It should be totally compatible with AdBlock plus...

Huh. Weird. :P

Author:  Neil of Erk [ May 20th, 2011, 10:34 am ]
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I think it was around the time of your last change...

Hypothesis: My intelligent, malignant, and generally annoying computer has done something to offend the Computer Gods (ask Inesdar).

Author:  Dieki Kondrael [ May 20th, 2011, 10:37 am ]
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Neil of Erk wrote:
I think it was around the time of your last change...

Hypothesis: My intelligent, malignant, and generally annoying computer has done something to offend the Computer Gods (ask Inesdar).


I just noticed - you're still running Firefox 3.6. Chat should work in 3.6, but still try upgrading to Firefox 4. (FF4 is faster, prettier, more stable, and generally more awesome than 3.6 anyway. :cool: )

Author:  Whythawye [ May 20th, 2011, 11:47 am ]
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Digitoki vs. Dieki. Dramatic wars ensue.

What about cache, just to throw in another variable? Is it possible that he might have some stale components cached still?

Author:  Neil of Erk [ May 20th, 2011, 6:36 pm ]
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Dieki Kondrael wrote:
Neil of Erk wrote:
I think it was around the time of your last change...

Hypothesis: My intelligent, malignant, and generally annoying computer has done something to offend the Computer Gods (ask Inesdar).


I just noticed - you're still running Firefox 3.6. Chat should work in 3.6, but still try upgrading to Firefox 4. (FF4 is faster, prettier, more stable, and generally more awesome than 3.6 anyway. :cool: )


Noted. :book:

Author:  Lady Elanor [ January 14th, 2012, 5:02 pm ]
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