Disappearing Chat Posts?

Lady Eruwaedhiel · **Posted:** May 10th, 2011, 10:48 am

I discovered this oddity recently:

Is this a post that has been hidden by the sender? Is it a glitch? Or is it a Dieki-ism only?

E

Aragorn · **Joined:** September 23rd, 2010, 3:42 pm **Posts:** 9085

That's a post hidden by the sender.

Rachel Newhouse · **Posted:** May 10th, 2011, 11:02 am

Is a "hidden" chat different than a "private" chat between selected people?

Aragorn · **Joined:** September 23rd, 2010, 3:42 pm **Posts:** 9085

It's the same thing, unless the person sends something to himself (such as a sound effect, so that it hides who did it temporarily).

Rachel Newhouse · **Posted:** May 10th, 2011, 2:47 pm

Ah, okay. Thanks, Jonathan.

Aragorn · **Joined:** September 23rd, 2010, 3:42 pm **Posts:** 9085

You're welcome. I'm hoping I'm right... I'm just going by what I've witnessed in chat.

Elanhil · **Posted:** May 11th, 2011, 6:50 am

What is with the numbers at the far right of your chat posts?!

Lady Eruwaedhiel · **Posted:** May 11th, 2011, 9:58 am

Eh, that's the "delete post" button. I have no clue why it shows up like that.

Andrew Amnon Mimetes · **Joined:** May 14th, 2010, 4:43 am **Posts:** 4458

@Lady E: Somewhat off-topic, but it shouldn't be like that

Try changing your browser's text encoding to UTF-8 (how to do that changes browser-by-browser but El Goog probably has some tips

)

eru

Lady Eruwaedhiel · **Posted:** May 15th, 2011, 7:02 pm

It's already set to UTF-8. (I found the way to change it in FF4 -- View > Character Encoding.)

Ohh, and I CAN only see these half-posts after I refresh the page. I didn't realize that.

Andrew Amnon Mimetes · **Joined:** May 14th, 2010, 4:43 am **Posts:** 4458

Strange

eru

Manda Kondrael · **Posted:** May 16th, 2011, 6:30 am

Those are just private chats.

I don't know why Dieki made it so you can see half of them if the page is refreshed...

Bethany Faith · **Joined:** January 27th, 2011, 2:13 pm **Posts:** 3226

Amanda Kondrael wrote:

Those are just private chats.

I don't know why Dieki made it so you can see half of them if the page is refreshed...

*whispers* That way you can know whether or not the chat is really silent...or people are whispering without your knowledge.

Or...you know, he probably had another reason. :roll:

I just don't know it.

BushMaid · **Posted:** May 16th, 2011, 5:09 pm

Hope no one has refreshed the page when I private chat, because usually I'm talking to myself! :shock:

I guess that would just prove what everyone has already deducted...

Bethany Faith · **Joined:** January 27th, 2011, 2:13 pm **Posts:** 3226

BushMaid wrote:

I guess that would just prove what everyone has already deducted...

That you're epicly awesome?

Reiyen · **Posted:** May 16th, 2011, 10:37 pm

Bethany Faith wrote:

BushMaid wrote:

I guess that would just prove what everyone has already deducted...

That you're epicly awesome?

Awesome one of the words you could use...

Leandra Falconwing · **Posted:** May 16th, 2011, 11:08 pm

Somewhat related (if I should have made this a separate topic, I do apologize), occasionally when people are using private chat, non-private chats will not be shown and only become visible on refreshing the page.

Constable Jaynin Mimetes · **Posted:** May 17th, 2011, 12:16 am

In other words, we suspect that secret chat generate a kind of gravitational pull that will suck nearby chats into their vortex of secretness. This would explain the oft-referred to phrase "Chat ate my post! :shock:

"

You know you're a crazy scifi writer when you start using gravitational fields to explain forum bugs instead of the traditional magical explanations.

Aragorn · **Joined:** September 23rd, 2010, 3:42 pm **Posts:** 9085

Sometimes when chat is very busy, and sometimes when people are conversing in secret chat, I've had chat posts disappear entirely and not reappear when the page is refreshed.

Neil of Erk · **Posted:** May 17th, 2011, 8:22 am

It's probably because the chat doesn't like me, but I haven't been able to see people's posts for some time now. I just see a name next to a blank space.

Incidentally, I can't see my posts either.

Constable Jaynin Mimetes · **Posted:** May 17th, 2011, 9:36 am

That's the same thing that happened to Dri! It's not a fluke then.

Perhaps if we can figure out what you two have in common we can figure out what is going on. *ponders, and awaits the experts*

Andrew Amnon Mimetes · **Joined:** May 14th, 2010, 4:43 am **Posts:** 4458

What browser are you using, Neil? Dri said he was using IE7, which is an older browser, so it could be some quirk from older browsers....Dieki would know

eru

Neil of Erk · **Posted:** May 18th, 2011, 1:20 pm

I'm using a recent edition of firefox. I have several ad-blocker and pop-up blocker additions running. I'm running Windows Vista.

Dieki Kondrael · **Joined:** January 1st, 2011, 5:34 pm **Posts:** 340

If you are running something like NoScript, chat will be broken. Possibly ditto for popup blockers, depends on how they work.

Oh, and the reason for the half-chats is a technical limitation. Someday I'd like to redo the chat system from scratch, but until then... we'll just have to live with it.

Elanhil · **Posted:** May 20th, 2011, 7:38 am

I also happen to know (from experience) that a slow connection can damage chat pretty badly...

Neil of Erk · **Posted:** May 20th, 2011, 8:30 am

My connection is excellent, so that shouldn't be a problem.

The thing is that not being able to choose the chat is a very recent development. I haven't added any plug-ins to my browser for a long time.

I'm fairly certain I'm not running NoScript. I think the pop-up blocker is just part of the ad-blocker plug-in. (Ad-Blocker Plus. It's free from the Firefox add-ons page. I'm also running another Ad-Blocker Plus script that facilitates its function on Windows, I believe.)

Dieki Kondrael · **Joined:** January 1st, 2011, 5:34 pm **Posts:** 340

How recent? I made some big changes a few months ago, but nothing in the past few days.

It should be totally compatible with AdBlock plus...

Huh. Weird.

Neil of Erk · **Posted:** May 20th, 2011, 10:34 am

I think it was around the time of your last change...

Hypothesis: My intelligent, malignant, and generally annoying computer has done something to offend the Computer Gods (ask Inesdar).

Dieki Kondrael · **Joined:** January 1st, 2011, 5:34 pm **Posts:** 340

Neil of Erk wrote:

I think it was around the time of your last change...

Hypothesis: My intelligent, malignant, and generally annoying computer has done something to offend the Computer Gods (ask Inesdar).

I just noticed - you're still running Firefox 3.6. Chat should work in 3.6, but still try upgrading to Firefox 4. (FF4 is faster, prettier, more stable, and generally more awesome than 3.6 anyway. :cool:

)

Whythawye · **Posted:** May 20th, 2011, 11:47 am

Digitoki vs. Dieki. Dramatic wars ensue.

What about cache, just to throw in another variable? Is it possible that he might have some stale components cached still?

Neil of Erk · **Posted:** May 20th, 2011, 6:36 pm

Dieki Kondrael wrote:

Neil of Erk wrote:

I think it was around the time of your last change...

Hypothesis: My intelligent, malignant, and generally annoying computer has done something to offend the Computer Gods (ask Inesdar).

I just noticed - you're still running Firefox 3.6. Chat should work in 3.6, but still try upgrading to Firefox 4. (FF4 is faster, prettier, more stable, and generally more awesome than 3.6 anyway. :cool:

)

Noted.

Lady Elanor · **Posted:** January 14th, 2012, 5:02 pm

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