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| Author: | Lady Sparks [ July 26th, 2017, 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Youngish female heir in charge? |
So in my WIP, I need the Lord/Baron/Vassal of the area to not be around. I was thinking I'd like for him to leave his 21-yr-old 2nd female heir in charge (1st heir, her twin brother is away) while he takes the majority of his guard to assist the neighboring kingdom who has sent for urgent help. There is little potential for danger (though of course, something unexpected will happen to test the mettle of this heir). This is a fantasy world so it doesn't have to follow any known rules - just be somewhat realistic. Does that sound reasonable? |
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| Author: | kingjon [ July 26th, 2017, 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youngish female heir in charge? |
(First, a point of order: Lady Sparks wrote: the Lord/Baron/Vassal of the area "One of these things is not like the others." A "vassal" is a sworn follower of a lord. He or she may be a nobleman, or even royalty, himself or herself, but "vassal" means "feudal subordinate," not "ruler." I suspect you meant "suzerain" or "sovereign," i.e. someone who has vassals.) Anyway. As with so many things, "it depends."
To sum up: this can be made to work easily enough if you're willing to adjust your worldbuilding as needed. As a matter of history it'd be somewhat dubious (though, also, by the late 18th century a 21-year-old woman wouldn't be seen as "youngish," but rather quite old to be still unmarried ...). But this being a different world, you can change things that affect that. |
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| Author: | Reiyen [ July 26th, 2017, 9:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youngish female heir in charge? |
Kingjon's advice is, as usual, thorough. A young female interim ruler is not a priori unacceptable. However, sexism being what it is, if she were left in charge, I do not doubt that someone would assume just because she's female that she's weaker than Lord/Baron, and try to take advantage. But then you said there was little likelihood of trouble. As long as there is no reason to expect trouble even domestically then I think it's a reasonable action for the Lord/Baron to choose. |
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| Author: | Lady Sparks [ July 27th, 2017, 12:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youngish female heir in charge? |
Actually, I mean somewhat like "a holder of land by feudal tenure on conditions of homage and allegiance." He's the boss but he still answers to someone else - kinda. Think Archenland vs Narnia - separate country but still part of the empire. But also like the Steward of Gondor (he answers to the high king but there is no high king at the moment so he's 100% in charge until someone fills the spot). I've been calling him the ruler (and his children prince/princess) in my WIP but this has confused the two beta's who have reviewed my outline/synopsis.
All of this is side-plot too, btw. The main story will be the main character and the heir/brother off on their adventure. (Which is what will spark the unexpected trouble.) |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ July 27th, 2017, 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youngish female heir in charge? |
I agree with the others. There is no rule that says she can't, and there are instances in history where women did take charge. But as Reiyen pointed out, they usually had to compensate in some way to overcome prejudice and maintain the throne. However, such compensation is good character development, and would add a nice touch to the story. It's also worth noting how much power your ruler has. If he's mostly a figurehead and the country is run by a council, or there's an official who's doing most of the day-to-day ordering, this might not be as much of an issue. |
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| Author: | kingjon [ July 27th, 2017, 4:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youngish female heir in charge? |
Lady Sparks wrote: Actually, I mean somewhat like "a holder of land by feudal tenure on conditions of homage and allegiance." He's the boss but he still answers to someone else - kinda. OK, you're using the term correctly---good! Lady Sparks wrote:
Given that, while people's first instinct might be to assume she wasn't a suitable regent, there's no reason to think she isn't, so acceptance seems more likely. Lady Sparks wrote:
That kind of humility could backfire, but in a small country where she's popularly loved I think it would also help acceptance of her as regent. And if "Mr. Right-Hand-Man" is (popularly) known to have leadership experience, his support helps too. Lady Sparks wrote:
OK, so no known-future-matrimonial entanglements to compromise legitimacy. To sum up: with what you've said so far, I think she has a better chance than most in her position in medieval Europe would have. |
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| Author: | Domici [ July 27th, 2017, 5:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youngish female heir in charge? |
Doable and potentially fun since many men would chafe at it. How they respond will speak of the lord and his children. Of course, a few noble heads adorning the gatehouse parapet could adjust attitudes nicely... |
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| Author: | Lady Sparks [ July 28th, 2017, 10:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Youngish female heir in charge? |
Domici wrote: Of course, a few noble heads adorning the gatehouse parapet could adjust attitudes nicely... |
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