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| Author: | Svensteel Mimetes [ July 23rd, 2011, 5:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Role playing games! |
1996. The first RPG; Dungeons and Dragons, was released. The world of games was toppled upside down and shook until its innards fell out like saute'd ham. My mother and father do not like the original RPG, (they said there is something bad, sorcery and all that bad stuff)... but I've heard there are others. Do any of you guys know what things like this are? Have you ever played one? Do you have one to recommend to each other? And better yet... Not having any of these things myself, not knowing where any are, and much less having enough money to buy one... I made one! I am quite proud of it too! A whole system of gaming in 30 little papers! Am I the only one who has made one? |
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| Author: | Leandra Falconwing [ July 23rd, 2011, 7:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
I've dabbled in a science fiction RPG called Traveller before (and there are supposed to be two L's, by the way). Arien could talk about it a lot more. I'm also quite fond of computer game RPGs; they might be my favorite type. Never tried to make one, though I did at one point think about attempting to modify the character creation format for Traveller so I could roll up some of my fantasy races as characters. |
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| Author: | Arien [ July 23rd, 2011, 7:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
Heh, yeah I could tell a lot about it, although I haven't done much with it recently. And as for the spelling, well, this is a game where vacuum suit is abbreviated to 'vacc suit,' so you shouldn't be too surprised by the spelling.  Anyway, I think I've probably made an attempt or two to make one, but I doubt they were any good. I don't remember for sure, though. |
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| Author: | Riniel Jasmina [ July 23rd, 2011, 8:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
I have a Christian one I can't get my family to play... I've always wanted to get into them myself, I've just never had the people to play them with. |
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| Author: | Leandra Falconwing [ July 23rd, 2011, 8:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
What's the name of it, Rin? Somewhere in the basement, my dad has a Christian RPG sitting around. Probably not the same, since it's fairly old, but now I'm curious.
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| Author: | Riniel Jasmina [ July 23rd, 2011, 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
Ours is fairly old too... I don't remember the name, Dragon something I believe... |
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| Author: | The Bard [ July 24th, 2011, 8:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
Ah I love RPG's, I've played over a dozen in my time. I am currently developing a Middle earth themed game along the lines of D&D. |
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| Author: | Treskillard [ July 24th, 2011, 9:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
I started playing Dungeons & Dragons as a non-Christian at age 13 (yes, this was way back in 1980), and I played it for three years, finally giving it up after becoming a Christian through the high-school ministry of Campus Crusade for Christ. No one told me to quit, but, as my friend put it "the contrast between Jesus Christ and D&D was just too strong". The problem with D&D is that you must choose your characters "alignment", which includes evil as an option. This means that the game is amoral at best, and encourages experimenting being evil at worst. On top of this, the game encourages each player to pick their "god" from a book that includes every pagan god from every religion of the world ... but the God of the Bible is not included. So you can add idolatry to the mix, too. The real issue, though, is that the game has ZERO consequences for evil behavior and no moral framework. Personally, I would steer clear of D&D. Anyway, this is not to say that the "concept" of how these games are played is wrong in and of itself. A hammer can be used to build things or destroy ... it is just a tool. And there are Christian alternatives, the most recent that I am aware of can be found at: http://soterion.com -Robert 
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| Author: | Lady Elanor [ July 24th, 2011, 9:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
I completely agree with you, Treskillard. My parents feel the same and they know people who have committed suicide through playing D&D because they become so controlled by it. |
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| Author: | Leandra Falconwing [ July 24th, 2011, 1:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
Riniel Jasmina wrote: Ours is fairly old too... I don't remember the name, Dragon something I believe... Dragonraid? XD |
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| Author: | Arien [ July 24th, 2011, 1:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
Well, without having actually looked at D&D myself, I rather suspect that it could be adapted and changed to make it fit better with a Christian worldview. It might not be worth it, though, particularly if any of the already Christian alternatives are as good or better as a game, besides the moral aspects. |
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| Author: | Svensteel Mimetes [ July 24th, 2011, 2:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
Quote: I'm also quite fond of computer game RPGs; they might be my favorite type. MMORPGs and such are the easiest, to use. And my personal favorite. Though just like anything not all of it is good... Treskillard wrote: I started playing Dungeons & Dragons as a non-Christian at age 13 (yes, this was way back in 1980), and I played it for three years, finally giving it up after becoming a Christian through the high-school ministry of Campus Crusade for Christ. No one told me to quit, but, as my friend put it "the contrast between Jesus Christ and D&D was just too strong". The problem with D&D is that you must choose your characters "alignment", which includes evil as an option. This means that the game is amoral at best, and encourages experimenting being evil at worst. On top of this, the game encourages each player to pick their "god" from a book that includes every pagan god from every religion of the world ... but the God of the Bible is not included. So you can add idolatry to the mix, too. The real issue, though, is that the game has ZERO consequences for evil behavior and no moral framework. Personally, I would steer clear of D&D. Anyway, this is not to say that the "concept" of how these games are played is wrong in and of itself. A hammer can be used to build things or destroy ... it is just a tool. And there are Christian alternatives, the most recent that I am aware of can be found at: http://soterion.com -Robert Aye, Tres; thank ye' for being a warning siren to all those people out there!  
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| Author: | Crushmaster [ July 24th, 2011, 2:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
Treskillard wrote: And there are Christian alternatives, the most recent that I am aware of can be found at: http://soterion.com -Robert Huh, that looks kinda interesting. Thanks for the link. ...And, good post. God bless, Crushmaster. |
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| Author: | Riniel Jasmina [ July 24th, 2011, 4:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
Leandra Falconwing wrote: Riniel Jasmina wrote: Ours is fairly old too... I don't remember the name, Dragon something I believe... Dragonraid? XD YESS! |
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| Author: | Leandra Falconwing [ July 24th, 2011, 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
 That's the one we have. I haven't looked at it in ages. 
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| Author: | Riniel Jasmina [ July 24th, 2011, 4:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
Leandra Falconwing wrote: That's the one we have. I haven't looked at it in ages. When I eventually get mine out we should play through skype or something. |
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| Author: | Leandra Falconwing [ July 24th, 2011, 7:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
That might be fun. I don't have Skype, but we could probably figure something else out.
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| Author: | Calenmiriel [ July 24th, 2011, 9:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
I've played Runescape and AdventureQuest but only for a couple years off and on. I've never really been hugely into them like my younger brother who gets hooked on them incredibly easy.
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| Author: | The Bard [ July 25th, 2011, 8:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
Quote: I'm also quite fond of computer game RPGs; they might be my favorite type. I love these too because you actually get to see things. But the beauty of a table top game is you get to come up with anything you like. (As long as you're the GM )But I do love games like Morrowind, Oblivion, and Dungeon Siege. Also I am a fan of LOTRO mostly because I love LOTR. |
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| Author: | Reiyen [ July 25th, 2011, 10:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
I have considered working on a Biblical RPG boardgame... where you literally play on a map of Bible times and such. And I've created RPG boardgames that run on Microsoft Excel. I'd be interested in hearing more about yours... send us a PM if you like. |
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| Author: | Svensteel Mimetes [ July 26th, 2011, 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
The Bard wrote: Quote: I'm also quite fond of computer game RPGs; they might be my favorite type. I love these too because you actually get to see things. But the beauty of a table top game is you get to come up with anything you like. (As long as you're the GM )But I do love games like Morrowind, Oblivion, and Dungeon Siege. Also I am a fan of LOTRO mostly because I love LOTR. LOTRO! Woohoo! I love LOTRO.... Quote: I've played Runescape Runescape is a good game! Quote: I have considered working on a Biblical RPG boardgame... where you literally play on a map of Bible times and such. And I've created RPG boardgames that run on Microsoft Excel. I'd be interested in hearing more about yours... send us a PM if you like. That's cool! A Biblical RPG! Ok! Ask me if you want to know any more about mine... It's not completely done but I'll try to fill you in.
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| Author: | Kelcin [ December 10th, 2011, 11:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
After reading a lot of D&D blogs, and being part of the Christians Gamer's Guild email list, I feel obligated to defend D&D, so I'll do it First off, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tBx4ITJLpE to a video of Gary Gygax, the Creator of D&D, speaking in the Christianity and Gaming discussion panel at GenCon in 2007(before he passed away). He was a Christian, though he may have had some off-beat doctrinal ideas. Also check out the Christian Gamer's Guild, Chaplin's Corner: http://www.christian-gamers-guild.org/chaplain/index.html Quote: On top of this, the game encourages each player to pick their "god" from a book that includes every pagan god from every religion of the world ... but the God of the Bible is not included. That particular book(Gods, Demigods and Heroes, later editions known by different names) is almost completely regarded as the worst D&D book in existence. It gave game stats to all the gods(how much health they have, fighting power, etc). Would you want some stats telling you how many sword thrusts it takes to kill God?(http://bloodofprokopius.blogspot.com/2010/01/deities-demigods-christian-perspective.html) |
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| Author: | Varon [ December 13th, 2011, 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
D&D is also a different world than ours. Consequences for evil are up tp the GM. Personally, I prefer GURPS (The system that Traveller use) for it's greater variety and it doesn't have that pesky class-system. Also, Traveller looks like an amazing world to play in. |
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| Author: | Arien [ December 13th, 2011, 8:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
Varon wrote: D&D is also a different world than ours. Consequences for evil are up tp the GM. Personally, I prefer GURPS (The system that Traveller use) for it's greater variety and it doesn't have that pesky class-system. Also, Traveller looks like an amazing world to play in. Ooh, Traveller! I like Traveller. (In case that wasn't made obvious by the first sentence...) But I will point out that technically GURPS is just one of the systems Traveller uses. Not that it matters a lot, for the most part. If you want a long and detailed explanation of the different systems, I can probably give one, but as I said, it mostly doesn't matter much, as long as you like the one you're using.Unfortunately, I haven't gotten much of a chance to play it, but I like it anyway. |
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| Author: | Varon [ December 14th, 2011, 8:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
The only system I know is GURPS. |
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| Author: | Kelcin [ December 14th, 2011, 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
Back when I first learned about RPGs, I ordered two copies of GURPS Lite online . Never actuly played with them, yet.
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| Author: | Varon [ December 14th, 2011, 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Role playing games! |
My problem is I don't have anyone to play with.
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