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| Author: | Captain Nemo Marlene [ December 14th, 2012, 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | The Hobbit |
This thread was gonna happen eventually. I haven't seen it yet, but I am tonight!!!! So, discuss! And remember, put spoilers in the spoilers place. Don't wanna give away the movie to those who haven't seen it yet! |
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| Author: | Neil of Erk [ December 14th, 2012, 3:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
I'm probably gonna go see it to celebrate when I finish my finals. |
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| Author: | Aratrea [ December 14th, 2012, 5:06 pm ] |
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I'm seeing it tomorrow with the rest of my youth group! |
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| Author: | The Bard [ December 15th, 2012, 8:20 am ] |
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Going tomorrow! Can't wait! |
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| Author: | Loki [ December 15th, 2012, 10:22 am ] |
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Hopefully I will see it next week! In IMAX, ideally, so I can see the 9-minute Star Trek preview too... |
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| Author: | Captain Nemo Marlene [ December 15th, 2012, 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Loki Loki Loki wrote: Hopefully I will see it next week! In IMAX, ideally, so I can see the 9-minute Star Trek preview too... Star Trek preview was good. I got to see it with the 48 frames per second, too. It was good. DO NOT LOOK UNLESS YOU WANT SPOILERS!!!!!!! I really liked the opening scene with Bilbo and Frodo and how it tied the Hobbit and LOTR together! I also LOVED the Gollum scene. That was excellent. The riddles were fun, and it gave more to the character of Gollum. The scenes with Galadriel and Gandalf were neat. This movie really seemed to give a lot of depth into the personality of Gandalf. He's like a wonderful grandfather! I love the Elvin king. *nodnodnodnodnod* AND THE HEDGEHOG SCENE WITH THE BROWN WIZARD. I do feel like some of the fight scenes were a little long, and the movie wasn't as magnificent as LOTR, but I've been told that LOTR is a much more dark story than the Hobbit. So it makes sense that it wouldn't be as dark as LOTR. But I loved it very much and I can't wait until the next one!
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| Author: | Lady Vilisse Mimetes [ December 16th, 2012, 1:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
My mind is still coming to grasp with how awesome all the scenery was Dwarven armor is the bomb! It was so cool seeing places how they were meant to have been. In LotR we see places in decay, in the Hobbit there are so many places that are alive! Brilliant! Erebor?!?! YEAH Besides Erebor, it was great seeing what Rivendell was supposed to be like. They're so at peace and so alive (I nearly flipped when the elven guards took out the orcs And don't get me started on how much I loved the costumes design for the Dwarves! |
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| Author: | Inkling Writer [ December 16th, 2012, 5:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
I've been to The Hobbit, there and back again! Saw it on IMAX when it came out last Thursday and I simply had the time of my life! So far, it has greatly surpassed my expectations--which, of course, were very high. I'm a huge LOTR/Tolkien/Middle Earth fan after all. Anyway, the detailing (scenery, buildings, costumes, and all) was superb, the characters spectacular...and I don't mind the changes which took place in the plot, in contrast to that of the book. It made the story all the more interesting. And like Lady Vilisse Mimetes said, I enjoyed seeing Middle Earth in its vibrant era. No dead trees, bogs, and marshes covering the entire land. By the way, I have a greater appreciation for dwarves now. Mind if I ask those who watched who their favourites are among the thirteen? |
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| Author: | Lady Elanor [ December 16th, 2012, 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
I'm going to see it tonight with my sisters, and my brother and his fiance. |
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| Author: | Blayne B. Trent [ December 16th, 2012, 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Inkling Writer wrote: I've been to The Hobbit, there and back again! Saw it on IMAX when it came out last Thursday and I simply had the time of my life! So far, it has greatly surpassed my expectations--which, of course, were very high. I'm a huge LOTR/Tolkien/Middle Earth fan after all. Anyway, the detailing (scenery, buildings, costumes, and all) was superb, the characters spectacular...and I don't mind the changes which took place in the plot, in contrast to that of the book. It made the story all the more interesting. And like Lady Vilisse Mimetes said, I enjoyed seeing Middle Earth in its vibrant era. No dead trees, bogs, and marshes covering the entire land. By the way, I have a greater appreciation for dwarves now. Mind if I ask those who watched who their favourites are among the thirteen? Don't click on the the black phrase if you don't want any spoilers. My favorite is: Fili, Kili, Oin, Gloin, Dwalin, Balin, Bifur, Bofur (especially Bofur), Bombur, Dori, Nori, and Ori! Also Thorin. |
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| Author: | Riniel Jasmina [ December 16th, 2012, 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
I thoughtIt seemed a bit scatter-brained at the beginning with all of the back stories, but it picked up nicely and I was well and truly enthralled by the end. I'm not sure what I think of Radaghast. In my head, I always thought of him as being more similar to Saruman and Gandalf in their nobly aloof airs, just more open with the animals. I think the should have made Saruman a little more amiable. I can't see why Gandalf would have trusted him so if he were always that contrary. The wargs were great, but I should have liked to see the brains they and the eagles had instead of just treating them like clever animals to do the biddings of good and evil (but the white tiger warg was gorgeous). The orcs could have stood to do a bit more shrieking, but I appreciated that the songs stayed in as they did. Elrond had great armor, and I like seeing him less solemn. I had always pictured the orc dwellings as tunnels, and the Lonely Mountain like the cathedral-esque Moria, only full of gold. I really like the development of the civilizations as they are. Seeing the sinister things happening, and knowing exactly what to expect was great (like with Gollum especially). By the way, is the field they were chased down by wargs in the same as in The Fellowship when Arwen and Frodo were chased down by the Nazgul? They look so similar, and I'd love the continuity in locations. |
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| Author: | Novadar [ December 16th, 2012, 10:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
All in all, the only problem I had with the film was Radagast. In the Fellowship of the Ring book, I'm pretty sure he was tall enough to ride a horse. That said, I really really really loved how they did it! As far as the last comment, I don't want to give anything away, but I think they were different locations. It looked more like Rohan in the beginning of the Two Towers than the area near Rivendell. |
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| Author: | The Bard [ December 17th, 2012, 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Saw it finally! Loved every moment of it. At the end I was thinking there is no way this movie was three hours long. It just flew by! Some of my favorite scenes were the Erebor scenes. It was wonderful to see the Lonely Mountain in its prime. |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ December 17th, 2012, 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
I saw it with E and Mama Raven on Saturday, and it was really good! I also had fun dissecting aspects of it after the movie with them! |
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| Author: | Neil of Erk [ December 17th, 2012, 11:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Going to see it on Sunday with some friends. Unfortunately, none of them have read anything other than LoTR and the Hobbit, so we won't be able to discuss the complexities of the Unfinished Tales, etc. |
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| Author: | Suiauthon Mimetes [ December 18th, 2012, 1:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
I come away with mixed reactions (which is to be expected when you're a book purist Lady Kitra Mimetes wrote: By the way, is the field they were chased down by wargs in the same as in The Fellowship when Arwen and Frodo were chased down by the Nazgul? They look so similar, and I'd love the continuity in locations. Possibly. I can't recall if the Fellowship scene was rocky or not, but those two scenes should have occurred in roughly the same Middle-Earth geography so that's a distinct possibility. Neil of Erk wrote: Going to see it on Sunday with some friends. Unfortunately, none of them have read anything other than LoTR and the Hobbit, so we won't be able to discuss the complexities of the Unfinished Tales, etc. I felt the same way. It stinks not being able to discuss the Necromancer or Istari parts in their proper contexts. I hope to come in here with a large post of analyzation later, but I'm waiting to compare bruises with a fellow book-purist first. |
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| Author: | Blayne B. Trent [ December 18th, 2012, 9:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Suiauthon Mimetes wrote: I come away with mixed reactions (which is to be expected when you're a book purist Lady Kitra Mimetes wrote: By the way, is the field they were chased down by wargs in the same as in The Fellowship when Arwen and Frodo were chased down by the Nazgul? They look so similar, and I'd love the continuity in locations. Possibly. I can't recall if the Fellowship scene was rocky or not, but those two scenes should have occurred in roughly the same Middle-Earth geography so that's a distinct possibility. Neil of Erk wrote: Going to see it on Sunday with some friends. Unfortunately, none of them have read anything other than LoTR and the Hobbit, so we won't be able to discuss the complexities of the Unfinished Tales, etc. I felt the same way. It stinks not being able to discuss the Necromancer or Istari parts in their proper contexts. I hope to come in here with a large post of analyzation later, but I'm waiting to compare bruises with a fellow book-purist first. I think it's the same area. It looks a bit, or a lot, like what Lady Kitra said. I also think that it rather sucks to not discus about the History of Middle Earth with people who haven't read the book. |
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| Author: | Varon [ December 18th, 2012, 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Watched it, enjoyed, plan to go back and see it again in 2D. (Yeah, I got nauseous a few times. Especially those panning scenes that do wierd twists to look downwards.) The changes were disconcerting at first, but I got used to them, and I can see the purpose behind them. |
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| Author: | Neil of Erk [ December 18th, 2012, 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Suiauthon Mimetes wrote: Neil of Erk wrote: Going to see it on Sunday with some friends. Unfortunately, none of them have read anything other than LoTR and the Hobbit, so we won't be able to discuss the complexities of the Unfinished Tales, etc. I felt the same way. It stinks not being able to discuss the Necromancer or Istari parts in their proper contexts. I hope to come in here with a large post of analyzation later, but I'm waiting to compare bruises with a fellow book-purist first. Well, some of the people I'm going with haven't read any of the books (horrors!) or even seen the movies (how is that possible?) so we will certainly have bruises. And I have a feeling that the Necromancer or Istari will probably be one of the main sources of confusion. |
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| Author: | Suiauthon Mimetes [ December 18th, 2012, 5:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Neil of Erk wrote: Suiauthon Mimetes wrote: Neil of Erk wrote: Going to see it on Sunday with some friends. Unfortunately, none of them have read anything other than LoTR and the Hobbit, so we won't be able to discuss the complexities of the Unfinished Tales, etc. I felt the same way. It stinks not being able to discuss the Necromancer or Istari parts in their proper contexts. I hope to come in here with a large post of analyzation later, but I'm waiting to compare bruises with a fellow book-purist first. Well, some of the people I'm going with haven't read any of the books (horrors!) or even seen the movies (how is that possible?) so we will certainly have bruises. And I have a feeling that the Necromancer or Istari will probably be one of the main sources of confusion. *nods* Overall those parts were well done. However, people who just read the Hobbit without delving any deeper won't be expecting those threads. |
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| Author: | Whackem [ December 18th, 2012, 6:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Loved every moment of it... Chinese afterwards was good too. Favorite dwarves would have to be Thorin, Dwalin, Balin, Fili and Kili. Then Bilbo was awesome as well. |
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| Author: | Lady Eruwaedhiel [ December 18th, 2012, 9:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
I SAW THE MOVIE WITH AIRIANNA The movie... Well, the movie. I had my nitpicks, but the scenery, characters, acting, script, CGI...wowwwwww. Rivendell is, like, my favorite location in a movie EVER. It was a bit overdone, and they overused the Misty Mountains theme in the action scenes. I couldn't take it as seriously as I would have liked to and the action kinda felt like "oh, let's see how many cool dwarf moves we can fit into the goblin fight scenes". It was tremendous fun, though.
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| Author: | Rebekah Jones [ December 18th, 2012, 10:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
I'm looking forward to seeing this, hopefully, soon after Christmas. At the same time, I am so loyal to books that I have to remember to turn off my automatic "That didn't happen!", "That character shouldn't be there!", "How could they change that!?!" comments or I probably won't enjoy it as much. |
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| Author: | Blayne B. Trent [ December 19th, 2012, 1:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Rebekah wrote: I'm looking forward to seeing this, hopefully, soon after Christmas. At the same time, I am so loyal to books that I have to remember to turn off my automatic "That didn't happen!", "That character shouldn't be there!", "How could they change that!?!" comments or I probably won't enjoy it as much. Don't worry. They put some new scenes for good. |
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| Author: | Arien [ December 19th, 2012, 10:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Eleutheria Mimetes wrote: they overused the Misty Mountains theme in the action scenes. What? Impossible! That's an awesome piece of music! I watched it yesterday. I liked it a lot, although it seemed to jump back and forth between dark and serious and then completely absurd. They definitely changed a lot of things and there were things I think should have been different (Radagast) but it was a lot of fun. |
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| Author: | Neil of Erk [ December 23rd, 2012, 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Going to see it tonight, in 3D with the high frame rate. Can't wait. *seriously* |
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| Author: | Suiauthon Mimetes [ December 23rd, 2012, 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Nice. |
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| Author: | The Bard [ December 23rd, 2012, 4:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Neil of Erk wrote: Going to see it tonight, in 3D with the high frame rate. Can't wait. *seriously* Tell us what you think of the HFR. |
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| Author: | Elly [ December 23rd, 2012, 8:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
The Hobbit was terrific! My daddy & I went and saw it today. It took probably ten minutes before I was hooked - after that it got put right up there on my favorite movies list. Martin Freeman was absolutely brilliant. My two favorite dwarves (whom I have affectionately titled "the terror twins") are Fili and Kili. My other favorite was Bofur (the hat! My favorite scene by far was the riddle game played between Bilbo and Gollum. I did like Radagast, though he seemed... different? Yes - much different than I expected. Like Kitra, I thought he'd be more of a "wizard" like Saruman or Gandalf... I did love the moment where he's feeding the little animal, and the animal opens its eyes and gets well again. ![]() The dwarves were different than I imagined. A couple of them seemed more like humans than dwarves (especially Fili and Kili and Bombur). I'm still having trouble telling them all apart, but this cheat sheet seems to help! *grin* I absolutely LOVED the scenery. New Zealand is so beautiful. Surprisingly, I lovedthe deep cave scenes with the twists and turns. The rope bridges were awesome... Rivendell is also beautiful... I can't say how many times I got photomanip ideas for fairy houses from the Rivendell scenery! Little fairy houses tucked behind waterfalls... In one of the first few scenes, where Bilbo wakes up after the eventful evening, his decision to run off on the adventure was... a little sudden. Perhaps a little too sudden. I think it would have been better had they dragged it out just a few minutes longer to create a little of that "is he going to go or not?" suspense. Still, that's just a small nitpicky thing. I like suspenseful scenes. As for the costumes... I liked Bofur's hat. |
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| Author: | Suiauthon Mimetes [ December 23rd, 2012, 11:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Radagast was more accurate than most people would think. Jackson did put a twist to him that is... well, plausible, I suppose (in some respects), but not likely, I think. Once upon a time I found an essay that analyzed Tolkien's unfinished plot thread that is Radagast. I should dig that up... |
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| Author: | Suiauthon Mimetes [ December 23rd, 2012, 11:43 pm ] |
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Can anyone with in-depth knowledge of Tolkien lore remember a location of a textual reference for Radagast's sleigh? When I saw it in the movie I was struck with the odd feeling that that detail was correct -- that I had read that queer piece of information somewhere -- but for the life of me I can't remember where it might be. |
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| Author: | Neil of Erk [ December 24th, 2012, 12:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Saw the movie! It is definitely worth seeing in in 3D, and the HFR was great, although it made some of the CGI more jerky looking. It's difficult to replicate real-life motion with animation, and even when you get it right, most people aren't used to the HFR yet. Suiauthon Mimetes wrote: Can anyone with in-depth knowledge of Tolkien lore remember a location of a textual reference for Radagast's sleigh? When I saw it in the movie I was struck with the odd feeling that that detail was correct -- that I had read that queer piece of information somewhere -- but for the life of me I can't remember where it might be. I had that feeling too...can't remember where I read it. It's one of those ridiculous yet totally plausible and appropriate elements that Peter Jackson keeps pulling out of his magic hat. Like Legolas sliding down the Mumakil's (yes, I know it's spelled wrong, I don't have time to dig out my special characters) trunk. |
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| Author: | Idril Aravis Mimetes [ December 24th, 2012, 3:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
I watched it and loved it. I think my favorite part is when Balin is telling Bilbo and Kili and Fili why Thorin hates Orcs so much. And he's just standing there with the wind blowing around, and when the story is nearly done, he turns around and all the Dwarves are there, standing to attention and listening intently. Ori is a cute Dwarf--"I don't like green food!" I've heard a lot of comments that this Middle-Earth doesn't look like the Middle-Earth from the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I think, however, that the scenes look just quite like they should. The Hobbit was some 60 or so years before the Lord of the Rings happened, and it was a better Middle-Earth with an amount of peace in the land. There would be cause for all that beauty in the mountains and the valleys, as darkness had not yet settled then. (Just my two cents. |
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| Author: | Blayne B. Trent [ December 24th, 2012, 8:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Idril Aravis Mimetes wrote: I watched it and loved it. I think my favorite part is when Balin is telling Bilbo and Kili and Fili why Thorin hates Orcs so much. And he's just standing there with the wind blowing around, and when the story is nearly done, he turns around and all the Dwarves are there, standing to attention and listening intently. Ori is a cute Dwarf--"I don't like green food!" I've heard a lot of comments that this Middle-Earth doesn't look like the Middle-Earth from the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I think, however, that the scenes look just quite like they should. The Hobbit was some 60 or so years before the Lord of the Rings happened, and it was a better Middle-Earth with an amount of peace in the land. There would be cause for all that beauty in the mountains and the valleys, as darkness had not yet settled then. (Just my two cents. This is one of my favorite scenes. @Elly, you watched it!!!! All Tolkien Fans you should try this quiz. Which Hobbit character are you? http://lotrproject.com/quiz/ |
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| Author: | Elly [ December 24th, 2012, 9:35 am ] |
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According to the quiz I'm like Bilbo. |
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| Author: | Blayne B. Trent [ December 24th, 2012, 9:51 am ] |
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I am Ori, although I wanted Bofur. |
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| Author: | Lady Katharina [ December 24th, 2012, 10:44 am ] |
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Apparently I am like Galadriel. Slightly shocked there.
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| Author: | Idril Aravis Mimetes [ December 24th, 2012, 10:46 am ] |
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*ish Galadriel too* *high-fives Faith* |
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| Author: | Lady Eruwaedhiel [ December 24th, 2012, 12:48 pm ] |
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Apparently I am Gandalf.
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| Author: | Lady Katharina [ December 24th, 2012, 1:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Idril Aravis Mimetes wrote: *ish Galadriel too* *high-fives Faith* *high fives back* |
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| Author: | Suiauthon Mimetes [ December 25th, 2012, 10:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Neil of Erk wrote: I had that feeling too...can't remember where I read it. *grins* I love that part. (We forgive you. It's one of those ridiculous yet totally plausible and appropriate elements that Peter Jackson keeps pulling out of his magic hat. Like Legolas sliding down the Mumakil's (yes, I know it's spelled wrong, I don't have time to dig out my special characters) trunk. Idril Aravis Mimetes wrote: I've heard a lot of comments that this Middle-Earth doesn't look like the Middle-Earth from the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I think, however, that the scenes look just quite like they should. The Hobbit was some 60 or so years before the Lord of the Rings happened, and it was a better Middle-Earth with an amount of peace in the land. There would be cause for all that beauty in the mountains and the valleys, as darkness had not yet settled then. How so?(Just my two cents. Though the potential danger that besets the North during Frodo's time is very great -- that threat is most times distant. During Bilbo's time, however, the Wild places are a large threat. West of the Misty Mountains does not pose much of a problem Theoretically. Practically, the journey to Imladris and through the Misty Mountains turned out to be much more dangerous than anticipated due to the unexpected traveling habits of trolls and goblins, respectively., but just East of the Misty Mountains, the Wild Parts are rife with goblins and wargs that are causing no end of mischief and strife. Beyond that, you approach Mirkwood and Dol Guldor. Both places extremely dangerous -- the latter a place of your worst nightmares. Contrary to what the movie showed, the Necromancer had been active for a long period of time -- though he does seem to be relatively contained (which is to his advantage, considering his motive, so I guess that is to be expected) -- and the lands surrounding his castle were to be avoided by everyone at all costs. Finally, you arrive at the Lonely Mountain which -- due to the current resident -- has long been lonely in more than just the geographic sense. I cannot recall, but Gondor and Rohan probably had more peace during Bilbo's time, but the North would be a different story. DISCLAIMER: All these facts are from my memory and are therefore subject to be fallible. XD Apparently, I'm most like Kíli. |
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| Author: | Idril Aravis Mimetes [ December 26th, 2012, 6:45 am ] |
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Suiauthon Mimetes wrote: Idril Aravis Mimetes wrote: I've heard a lot of comments that this Middle-Earth doesn't look like the Middle-Earth from the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I think, however, that the scenes look just quite like they should. The Hobbit was some 60 or so years before the Lord of the Rings happened, and it was a better Middle-Earth with an amount of peace in the land. There would be cause for all that beauty in the mountains and the valleys, as darkness had not yet settled then. How so?(Just my two cents. Though the potential danger that besets the North during Frodo's time is very great -- that threat is most times distant. During Bilbo's time, however, the Wild places are a large threat. West of the Misty Mountains does not pose much of a problem Theoretically. Practically, the journey to Imladris and through the Misty Mountains turned out to be much more dangerous than anticipated due to the unexpected traveling habits of trolls and goblins, respectively., but just East of the Misty Mountains, the Wild Parts are rife with goblins and wargs that are causing no end of mischief and strife. Beyond that, you approach Mirkwood and Dol Guldor. Both places extremely dangerous -- the latter a place of your worst nightmares. Contrary to what the movie showed, the Necromancer had been active for a long period of time -- though he does seem to be relatively contained (which is to his advantage, considering his motive, so I guess that is to be expected) -- and the lands surrounding his castle were to be avoided by everyone at all costs. Finally, you arrive at the Lonely Mountain which -- due to the current resident -- has long been lonely in more than just the geographic sense. I cannot recall, but Gondor and Rohan probably had more peace during Bilbo's time, but the North would be a different story. DISCLAIMER: All these facts are from my memory and are therefore subject to be fallible. XD Apparently, I'm most like Kíli. Well...I thought that maybe, though the Necromancer had been abroad for some parts already, much of Sauron's works and forces did not begin to spread, in the sense that it did not affect the land. In The Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers, we begin to see them uprooting the trees, destroying the land, and all that, but there was not much of that in The Hobbit. On the contrary, you're probably right that Gondor and Rohan could have had more peace, but the path that Bilbo and the rest of the Dwarves traveled could be more perilous. *shrugs* This is all from memory, too, so don't take my word for anything. It's been some time since I last picked up the books to read. |
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| Author: | Lady Elanor [ December 26th, 2012, 7:59 am ] |
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I saw it with my sisters and my brother and his fiance in 2D. It was fantastic! Better than I had imagined it would be! However over Christmas I am going to see it with my Dad and Mother in 3D which will be awesome. |
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| Author: | Suiauthon Mimetes [ December 27th, 2012, 2:20 am ] |
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Idril Aravis Mimetes wrote: Suiauthon Mimetes wrote: Idril Aravis Mimetes wrote: I've heard a lot of comments that this Middle-Earth doesn't look like the Middle-Earth from the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I think, however, that the scenes look just quite like they should. The Hobbit was some 60 or so years before the Lord of the Rings happened, and it was a better Middle-Earth with an amount of peace in the land. There would be cause for all that beauty in the mountains and the valleys, as darkness had not yet settled then. How so?(Just my two cents. Though the potential danger that besets the North during Frodo's time is very great -- that threat is most times distant. During Bilbo's time, however, the Wild places are a large threat. West of the Misty Mountains does not pose much of a problem Theoretically. Practically, the journey to Imladris and through the Misty Mountains turned out to be much more dangerous than anticipated due to the unexpected traveling habits of trolls and goblins, respectively., but just East of the Misty Mountains, the Wild Parts are rife with goblins and wargs that are causing no end of mischief and strife. Beyond that, you approach Mirkwood and Dol Guldor. Both places extremely dangerous -- the latter a place of your worst nightmares. Contrary to what the movie showed, the Necromancer had been active for a long period of time -- though he does seem to be relatively contained (which is to his advantage, considering his motive, so I guess that is to be expected) -- and the lands surrounding his castle were to be avoided by everyone at all costs. Finally, you arrive at the Lonely Mountain which -- due to the current resident -- has long been lonely in more than just the geographic sense. I cannot recall, but Gondor and Rohan probably had more peace during Bilbo's time, but the North would be a different story. DISCLAIMER: All these facts are from my memory and are therefore subject to be fallible. XD Apparently, I'm most like Kíli. Well...I thought that maybe, though the Necromancer had been abroad for some parts already, much of Sauron's works and forces did not begin to spread, in the sense that it did not affect the land. In The Fellowship of the Ring and The Two Towers, we begin to see them uprooting the trees, destroying the land, and all that, but there was not much of that in The Hobbit. On the contrary, you're probably right that Gondor and Rohan could have had more peace, but the path that Bilbo and the rest of the Dwarves traveled could be more perilous. *shrugs* This is all from memory, too, so don't take my word for anything. It's been some time since I last picked up the books to read. Also (and in this, the movies do not look like they will remain true to the story), I recall that the area surrounding Dol Guldor is said to be a barren wasteland on account of the pervasive evil in that land. |
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| Author: | Lady Elanor [ December 29th, 2012, 6:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
I saw the Hobbit with Mother and Dad the other night, in 3D. It was awesome. |
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| Author: | Saya [ December 30th, 2012, 9:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
I went in expecting the movie to be excellent, like Lord of the Rings excellent. It did not meet my expectations, which is so sad because I really, really wanted it to, and expected it to. The only truly excellent scene, in my opinion, was the Gollum scene. That being said, Martin Freeman as Bilbo was very, very good. Richard Armitage (who played Thorin) is my favorite actor of all time, so I enjoyed his presence too. But overall I was disappointed. I'm not even saying this because I'm comparing it to the book, because, though I've read and loved the book, I didn't really do much comparing when I was watching the movie. It was enjoyable to see once but I don't think I'd to actively seek it out again. . . I'll probably still see the others and hope they turn out better. |
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| Author: | Varon [ December 30th, 2012, 11:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
Here's my review in my school paper. http://my.hsj.org/Schools/Newspaper/tab ... eview.aspx |
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| Author: | Politician de Paz [ January 8th, 2013, 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
The Hobbit was a disappointment for me. Don't get me wrong, it was a good movie (3/5 stars), but not what I expected. I thought the first part of the film was great (from Smaug's attack through Bilbo's party and the dwarves' songs then up till the troll attack). The troll attack, however, disappointed a bit. Still, I think it worked in continuity with the movie. It seemed like a lot of Bilbo's big scenes were downplayed by Gandalf and Gandalf's big scenes were downplayed by Bilbo's heroics. Rivendell was awesome. The white council scenes were a little weird, but okay. Radagast was awesome, though I almost wish he would have come to the council rather than meeting them in the middle of nowhere. (Didn't he live in Mirkwood? Doesn't that mean all his scenes with the hedgehog took place way before the other scenes? Or am I over-thinking it?) The Cave scenes were cool, but I disliked how they handled Bilbo's separation. And the Gollum scene was somewhat disappointing. The Great Goblin was awesome. The Last battle scene, other than deviating majorly from the book, was amazing. Bilbo's courage was great! My biggest dislike about this was how dark it seemed. Yes, LotR is dark, but this seemed much darker than LotR. Especially some of Azog's scenes. Still, it was an entertaining film, and makes me wonder what else they'll have in the other films. |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ January 8th, 2013, 12:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
You were disappointed in the Gollum scene? |
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| Author: | Roager the Ogre [ January 8th, 2013, 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Hobbit |
El Hombre de Paz wrote: My biggest dislike about this was how dark it seemed. Yes, LotR is dark, but this seemed much darker than LotR. I thought that as well, but then I watched LotR again. I would say the Hobbit seems darker due to jarring transitions from playful, light hearted comedy to Azog holding a decapitated head. LotR is much bloodier and has a more "serious weight" feel to the battles and story. The Hobbit comes off very light and portrayed the majority of the fights as comedic and fun, which takes away the peril of the actual danger they face and makes those dark scenes appear so much darker. It draws you into thinking it is a family friendly movie then slaps you in the face and says, "Remember that PG-13 rating? Here's why we got it." I haven't read the Hobbit in over a decade so I don't remember how many of the dwarves make it through the end, but I had no sense of "serious" danger during their battles. Compare the LotR cave troll battle in Moria against the Goblin King battle. The Moria battle is scary, bloody, and gritty. The Goblin King battle? It was a lot of fun to watch, I mean a lot of fun, but no where near as dark or as "serious" as Moria. |
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