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What do you think of Tangled?
I've seen it, and I'd completely recommend it! 49%  49%  [ 40 ]
I've seen it, and I'd recommend it with caution. 9%  9%  [ 7 ]
I've seen it, and I don't recommend it. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I haven't seen it, but I want to! 26%  26%  [ 21 ]
I haven't seen it, but I'm not really interested in it. 6%  6%  [ 5 ]
I haven't seen it, and I don't want to 4%  4%  [ 3 ]
What is it? 6%  6%  [ 5 ]
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PostPosted: August 30th, 2012, 9:46 am 
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I'm glad, Jonathan!

*grins* I love you, Elanor. :D I disagree, but that is okay. You are always so gracious! And yes, it is fun to hear different views, especially from people as nice as you. ;)

And we might agree to disagree there, Arien. ;) But 'tis okay. :D I have neither time nor desire to argue. :rofl:

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The one thing about the whole rebellion bit, though, is that Repunzel's age is actually mentioned, and while she leaves while she's 17, I really would consider her to be an adult, and hence disobeying her mother isn't rebellion in the same way at all. I mean, sure, she's not an adult by our standards, but she really is old enough that she should be able to make at least some of her own decisions. I understand if that still doesn't seem like enough, but I'm just pointing out that it's not the same as if she was, say, 12.


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Thanks for sharing your opinions on the movie, guys! I haven't seen it (and doubt I'll watch if due to nothing other than the fact that I don't particularly enjoy movies too much), but it was interesting to see what y'all had to say about it. :D

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I agree with all your points, Gracie. :D Although some of the points I view a little differently.

I don't think Rapunzel was being rebellious; not in the way rebellion is generally portrayed and acted out. (Princess Jasmine in Aladdin, for example) It is highly emphasized that she truly didn't want to run away, she just wanted to see the lights and then return home. Rebellion has a lot to do with attitude, and I think most of us would agree that despite her actions, Rapunzel's attitude was not one of frustrated/bitter rebellion. The whole part about rebellion that I didn't like, was Flynn's reverse psychology spiel on how good rebellion is. :P And that's probably where the whole rebellious theme came into the story (we always fast-forward that part).

I probably disagree with unrealistic romance, but would dub it as unrealistic career move. Running off with a thief is definitely a bad idea. :roll: Of course, it also proves how desperate she was to see the lights, though. That she would rebel - unrebelliously - and run off with the first fruitloop to climb her tower; gotta give her points for dedication. ;)

And all the bad guys in the tavern were just a joke. :rofl: However... *ponders* Though what happened in the movie is unrealistic, and though there are plain evil people out there... I do believe 90% of "bad" people have an uncommon goodness in them... Feel free to cut me down to size about that. :blush:

So in short, I agree with you Gracie, but I still like the movie. :D I would recommend it, though with cautions to parents.

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Yes, you are right that she didn't have a bitter, rebellious attitude. :D I really don't know that one can argue that anything SHE HERSELF did was intrinsically immoral, just perhaps a bit foolish, I'm more just concerned about it confusing kids. That's all. :) So yeah, a caution to parents is good. :)

I disagree about bad guys, but I shan't cut you down, 'cause as I said, I have no desire to argue. ;)

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Hehe. I have a very long post on the film review site about the issues with Tangled, and my thoughts on them, but I would agree there are some issues. That said, I think there are issues with most movies, even epic ones like Cars and HtTyD. The issue with the thugs is certainly something I think had issue. It is portrayed as silly and lighthearted, but there are deeper issues concerned with it... And running off with a thief is not a smart move. Which is why parents should raise their children to be discerning, and not naive. Which is kinda how I feel about the movie... it gives the opportunity to help develop children's discernment. But that, of course, is up to parents.

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Lady Amaris Mimetes wrote:
Okies, if y'all insist. ;) *doesn't want to get into an argument*

Basically, there were three main problems I noticed:

1. Rebellion. I know some will disagree with me here, since Gothel was not in fact Rapunzel's true mother, and was using her for selfish ends, but I still say the way this situation was handled is potentially confusing for children -- how many kids already see their parents as "unfair" and how many are going to force their parents into a mold of Mother Gothel? Two of my sisters are uncomfortable watching the movie because of this aspect. I think the same situation could have been handled better -- made less to look externally like a typical "teenage rebellion" moment.

2. Unrealistic romance. Running off alone with a thief? Bright idea, Rapunzel. In the real world, innocent young girl and selfish, immoral young man running off alone together will not end well. This I think is even more problematic than the rebellion issues, because it endorses the naive view of romance and guys that a lot of young girls already have.

3. Unrealistic view of evil. In the real world, ruffians and thugs aren't some sort of poor, lovable, misunderstood souls who've just never been allowed to live their dreams who will be instantly transformed by the singing of an innocent, defenseless young girl. There are selfish, immoral and just plain evil people out there, and while reformation is possible, and God can and will protect His own, it's a really bad idea to tell young kids that bad guys "are just misunderstood" and not dangerous. I think this might have been most disturbing of all, to me.

I found it all rather disturbing, and despite my love for a lot of things about the film, I cannot fully endorse it.

Them's my humble thoughts. *curtsies* You asked for it, remember. ;)



(Airianna's right: all films have their issues, but I still think of Tangled as being mild and clean)

First, I'm not looking for an argument, truly I'm not, I just wanted to see what you all found wrong, or at least 'not quite right' with the film.

In reply to Amaris:
1, Most kids I know can tell by the end of the movie that Gothel wasn't really Rapunzel's mother in the first place, that Gothel is no role model, and of course there's the fact that Gothel is the villain while Rapunzel's real parents--as seen through several clips--are good, honest, loving people. As for 'unfair', what child/teen goes through life without once thinking that about their parents? It's in our nature. Most of us get over it. XD Gothel doesn't even begin to fit into the parent mold and I think that the storyline points that out pretty well. And think about it: Rapunzel thinks this is her mom, so having a 'teenage rebellion moment' is sure to come up.

2, Unrealistic romance. Yeah, well, it's a fairy tale, isn't it? And whoever said Rapunzel was bright? Sweet, yes; pretty, of course; a wonderful character, that might be up for debate around here but most of us would tend towards the yes--she is the MC, after all. I see her running off--and the subsequent running-around-in-the-forest-going-hysterical scenes--as being the natural, fairy-tale type of reaction. And she does get a lot wiser by the end of the movie. As for the naive view of romance, it's a liberal, broken world we live in and that's how most of the world sees romance. We find a problem with it because of what we believe, but that's not how Hollywood sees it. It might not be right, but it's understandable, and it's also pretty clean and wholesome comparably.

3, 'In the real world, ruffians and thugs aren't some sort of poor, lovable, misunderstood souls who've just never been allowed to live their dreams who will be instantly transformed by the singing of an innocent, defenseless young girl.' Yes, and--on a purely skin-deep level of thinking--that's what makes it so funny. Looking further, it might not be the correct line of thinking, but it works in a fairytale and I don't find it confusing with the real world. The thing that is so wonderful about fairytales is that it's not real. Even from a very young age, we realize this. Now, on some level I would agree that families might want to discuss certain aspects of the film, of any film, with their kids.


Last thing: Concerning parents: I actually think this movie does a good job of portraying what it's like to grow up without that parental guidance--or the correct kind, anyway--even had Rapunzel's parents not been king and queen, you can tell from their characters that they would have raised her in a much better way. Given the opportunity, she probably never would have run away with an unsavory guy like Flynn in the first place.

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PostPosted: August 31st, 2012, 11:04 pm 
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts, Caeli! :D I enjoyed reading them, and I definitely see your points, even if I lean a bit more conservative on it. :) Good thoughts.

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Honestly, I enjoyed discussing it. In the past year or two I've noticed a bad habit in myself: listening to/reading/watching things and --as long as they aren't full of language and obviously perverse themes, being okay with them. I don't stop to think about it a lot, so it was nice (on a somewhat selfish level) to sit down and read what people though, really thought, about it and then decide what exactly it was that I thought about it. ;)

((Reading back over that, I realize it makes me sound as if I don't mind a little bit of language or things of that nature. I do. In some circumstances I'm willing to overlook it, but I always notice and usually cringe.))

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On a slightly different angle, I just got the Tangled Soundtrack to listen to. Love it! :D

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*loves the Tangled soundtrack* ^_^

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Oh, NemoTwin gave it to me for my birthday! I play "When Will My Life Begin" when I'm cleaning... :D

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Oh, NemoTwin gave it to me for my birthday! I play "When Will My Life Begin" when I'm cleaning... :D



Ooh, I should get the soundtrack! :D I listen to them on You Tube all the time!

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Ahhh, Tangled! One of my favorite movies EVER!
I love, like, absolutely everything about this movie.
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