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Author:  Aragorn [ February 24th, 2012, 8:07 am ]
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This is a creature from one of my fantasy worlds. Comments and questions are welcome.

Jaders are large green cats that are also called emerald tigers. Like tigers, jaders have black stripes, but their green fur and heavier build set them apart from tigers. Jaders have light green eyes that almost seem to glow, and even their teeth are tinged with green.

Jaders are five to ten feet long from the tip of their nose to the tip of their tail, with a weight of four hundred to over eight hundred pounds. They have good eyesight, hearing, and smell, and their green color helps them blend into the Darkwood Forest where they live.

Jaders mate for life, and so live and hunt in pairs. While many will choose another mate if their mate dies, some jaders will never mate again if their mate dies, and occasionally one of these lone jaders is seen. They give birth to two to four young, which mature quickly.

Jaders are somewhat legendary for being quiet and relentless hunters who are very dangerous to lone travelers and small groups on the roads through the Darkwood Forest. Leaving the road puts one in even more danger, for then the jaders can often attack without being seen first, and two such large and aggressive predators are hard to kill. A pair has been known to slaughter as many as twelve men at once.

Due to how dangerous jaders are, the kingdoms that the Darkwood Forest spreads through try to kill them off around the main roads, though these efforts are not entirely successful. Hunters like to come and test their skills against the jader, a test that many of them lose. A rare few men hunt jaders for a living, selling their valuable fur and getting bounties from the kingdoms they hunt in, but such men typically seem insane due to having to become almost like forest animals in order to hunt the elusive jader.

Author:  Lady Elanor [ February 24th, 2012, 9:13 am ]
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*Has just spotted this*

You shared some! Awesome. :cool:

And I love these creatures, you have worked on them well!

So do they live in dens in the forest, or do they just sleep on the forest floor? Where do they live when they're having a litter? How protective are they of their young, and how much does the male get involved with the young? Are they close, or does the male Jader not have much to do with the litter?

How are they with other Jaders? I mean, are they protective of their forest 'area' or do they share, and not bother whether other Jaders live nearby?

Author:  Calista Bethelle [ February 24th, 2012, 2:45 pm ]
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:book: :o :dieshappy: *Liketh muchly* The jaders sound amazing! Is it possible to tame one? Can you ride on one's back? *Sees a story idea coming and wants to write about someone who tames a jader* :rofl:

Author:  Seer of Endor [ February 24th, 2012, 7:21 pm ]
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Emerald tigers? I think I must've rubbed off on you :P

Author:  Calista Bethelle [ February 24th, 2012, 8:04 pm ]
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:rofl: Why sayest thou so?

Author:  cephron [ February 24th, 2012, 9:24 pm ]
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Do they view humans as any other prey, or will they tend to only attack humans when they feel threatened?

Author:  Aragorn [ February 24th, 2012, 10:36 pm ]
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Lady Elanor wrote:
*Has just spotted this*

You shared some! Awesome. :cool:

And I love these creatures, you have worked on them well!

Thank you, Lady Elanor. :D

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So do they live in dens in the forest, or do they just sleep on the forest floor?

They sleep in sheltered places on the forest floor.

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Where do they live when they're having a litter? How protective are they of their young, and how much does the male get involved with the young? Are they close, or does the male Jader not have much to do with the litter?

They are very protective of their young, which they raise in a sheltered place. The male jader will hunt alone soon after the female gives birth, but once the young are old enough to be left alone for long periods of time, the parents hunt together again.

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How are they with other Jaders? I mean, are they protective of their forest 'area' or do they share, and not bother whether other Jaders live nearby?

Lone jaders who are young and have never mated do not have territories, but roam about at random until they find a mate. Mated pairs, and a jader that had its mate die and didn’t mate again, will guard their territory fiercely against other jaders.

Author:  Aragorn [ February 24th, 2012, 10:37 pm ]
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Milly Manderly wrote:
:book: :o :dieshappy: *Liketh muchly* The jaders sound amazing!

Thank you, Milly. :D

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Is it possible to tame one?

It's theoretically possible that, if someone captured a jader cub, they could raise it to be fairly tame, though it would still retain dangerous instincts that would have to be watched.

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Can you ride on one's back?

They're not big enough for an adult human to ride. A child could fit on one, but due to the jader's temperament this is unlikely to happen.

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*Sees a story idea coming and wants to write about someone who tames a jader* :rofl:

You can always make up an even bigger cat for people to ride. :D

Author:  Aragorn [ February 24th, 2012, 10:39 pm ]
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Seer wrote:
Emerald tigers? I think I must've rubbed off on you :P
Milly Manderly wrote:
:rofl: Why sayest thou so?

Seer is referring to the randomly-colored critters he tosses into chat. ;) I chose green because it is a good camouflaging color for a predator that lives in a lush green environment, and because it would look cool. :cool:

cephron wrote:
Do they view humans as any other prey, or will they tend to only attack humans when they feel threatened?

They view humans like other prey, except with a bit more caution.

Thank you to everyone for all the good questions. :D

Author:  Rachel Newhouse [ February 24th, 2012, 11:08 pm ]
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Lady Elanor wrote:
You shared some! Awesome. :cool:


I know, right? It's a highlight of my week. :dieshappy:

I love your names. o.O Jaders = emerald tigers... that makes a lot of sense, and sounds very cool. :D What shade of green are they, specifically?

So do they have a litter of 2-4 cubs and then never have another litter?

I'll bet a jader pelt is the height of fashion, and would make a very ostentatious throw rug. :D

I like these a lot. :cool:

Author:  Suiauthon Mimetes [ February 24th, 2012, 11:20 pm ]
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Jonathan shared some of us Fantasy stuffage. :shock:

:diesveryhappy:


You mention that the lone jaders are sometimes seen. How does one recognize a lone jader from one that still has a living mate, but is seperate from it?

Author:  Aragorn [ February 24th, 2012, 11:27 pm ]
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Aubrey Hansen wrote:
Lady Elanor wrote:
You shared some! Awesome. :cool:


I know, right? It's a highlight of my week. :dieshappy:

I love your names. o.O Jaders = emerald tigers... that makes a lot of sense, and sounds very cool.

Thank you, Aubrey. :D

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What shade of green are they, specifically?

It's a dark green, but not so dark that you can't see the stripes.

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So do they have a litter of 2-4 cubs and then never have another litter?

They have a litter of 2 to 4 cubs each year in the prime of life, but the mortality rate for young jaders on their own is high, due to other large predators.

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I'll bet a jader pelt is the height of fashion, and would make a very ostentatious throw rug.

Excellent point. I'll have to make sure some of the local royalty have some jader fur items. ;)

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I like these a lot. :cool:

I'm glad. :D

Author:  Aragorn [ February 25th, 2012, 12:51 am ]
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Suiauthon wrote:
Jonathan shared some of us Fantasy stuffage. :shock:

:diesveryhappy:

Yes. ;)

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You mention that the lone jaders are sometimes seen. How does one recognize a lone jader from one that still has a living mate, but is separate from it?

A female will never be alone unless her mate is dead or she is young and looking for a mate. A male will never be alone unless his mate is dead, he is young and looking for a mate, or he is hunting for his mate and young. Thus, if it is an older female who is alone, it means her mate is dead, and if a male is older and seen alone outside of the time when cubs would be young, it means his mate is dead.

Author:  Suiauthon Mimetes [ February 25th, 2012, 1:35 am ]
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I figured the answer was somewhere along those lines. :D

Fascinating creatures. :cool:

Author:  Aragorn [ February 25th, 2012, 1:56 am ]
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Thanks. :D

Author:  Lady Elanor [ February 25th, 2012, 1:36 pm ]
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Jonathan Garner wrote:
Lady Elanor wrote:
*Has just spotted this*

You shared some! Awesome. :cool:

And I love these creatures, you have worked on them well!

Thank you, Lady Elanor. :D

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So do they live in dens in the forest, or do they just sleep on the forest floor?

They sleep in sheltered places on the forest floor.

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Where do they live when they're having a litter? How protective are they of their young, and how much does the male get involved with the
young? Are they close, or does the male Jader not have much to do with the litter?


They are very protective of their young, which they raise in a sheltered place. The male jader will hunt alone soon after the female gives birth, but once the young are old enough to be left alone for long periods of time, the parents hunt together again.

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How are they with other Jaders? I mean, are they protective of their forest 'area' or do they share, and not bother whether other Jaders live nearby?

Lone jaders who are young and have never mated do not have territories, but roam about at random until they find a mate. Mated pairs, and a jader that had its mate die and didn’t mate again, will guard their territory fiercely against other jaders.


Aah yes, ok. Thanks for answering! :D

At what age do the young Jaders leave their parents?

Author:  Airianna Valenshia [ February 27th, 2012, 12:44 pm ]
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*gasps * I love these guys!!! Very creative. Are they revered by anyone in your world? For some reason I can't get that thought out of my mind....

Author:  Aragorn [ February 28th, 2012, 6:14 am ]
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Lady Elanor wrote:
At what age do the young Jaders leave their parents?

That is such a good question that due to researching it I have to change something I said earlier. :rofl: They leave their parents at around two years of age, so now I have jaders having litters of two to four every three years.

Airianna Valenshia wrote:
*gasps * I love these guys!!! Very creative. Are they revered by anyone in your world? For some reason I can't get that thought out of my mind....

Thank you, Airianna. :D At the moment they are not, though it's possible that could change. I do have some other animals that are revered in certain parts of the world.

Author:  Lady Elanor [ February 28th, 2012, 7:41 am ]
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:rofl: I'm glad the question helped.

Author:  Airianna Valenshia [ February 28th, 2012, 8:31 am ]
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So they are more menaces, of sorts, than anything?

Author:  Aragorn [ February 28th, 2012, 7:13 pm ]
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Yes. Similar to tigers in our world, but more dangerous. I may develop them further when I am developing the local cultures in depth.

Author:  Airianna Valenshia [ February 29th, 2012, 1:44 pm ]
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Cool. :)

Author:  RunningWolf [ March 2nd, 2012, 10:52 am ]
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These are awesome! This is sort of a wild suggestion, but an idea I just had that I thought I would share with you...in question form.
Are there any groups of warriors (assassins?) that require a new member to kill one of these creatures as sort of an initiation requirement? That would be similar to how the Spartans initiated new warriors I think.
Anyhow, these things are cool, I like how they mate for life, and might not mate again if they lose their partner. Good job all around!

Author:  Aragorn [ March 2nd, 2012, 5:47 pm ]
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Thank you, RunningWolf. :D

RunningWolf wrote:
This is sort of a wild suggestion, but an idea I just had that I thought I would share with you...in question form.
Are there any groups of warriors (assassins?) that require a new member to kill one of these creatures as sort of an initiation requirement? That would be similar to how the Spartans initiated new warriors I think.

That's a good idea. I have something similar involving a ritual and an even more dangerous creature in another part of the world, so I'm not sure if I'll use it with the jaders, too.

Author:  Lady Elanor [ March 2nd, 2012, 6:12 pm ]
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Jonathan Garner wrote:
Thank you, RunningWolf. :D

RunningWolf wrote:
This is sort of a wild suggestion, but an idea I just had that I thought I would share with you...in question form.
Are there any groups of warriors (assassins?) that require a new member to kill one of these creatures as sort of an initiation requirement? That would be similar to how the Spartans initiated new warriors I think.

That's a good idea. I have something similar involving a ritual and an even more dangerous creature in another part of the world, so I'm not sure if I'll use it with the jaders, too.


Ooh, neat. *Wants to know about them next* :beg:

Author:  RunningWolf [ March 2nd, 2012, 6:15 pm ]
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You're welcome!
Cool, yeah I wanna hear about the other creature (if you're ready to share it)!

Author:  Aragorn [ March 2nd, 2012, 6:16 pm ]
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Lady Elanor wrote:
Jonathan Garner wrote:
I have something similar involving a ritual and an even more dangerous creature in another part of the world, so I'm not sure if I'll use it with the jaders, too.


Ooh, neat. *Wants to know about them next* :beg:
RunningWolf wrote:
Cool, yeah I wanna hear about the other creature (if you're ready to share it)!

I'll consider posting about them next. :D

Author:  Suiauthon Mimetes [ March 3rd, 2012, 1:44 am ]
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RunningWolf wrote:
That would be similar to how the Spartans initiated new warriors I think.
As I recall, a Spartan initiate had to murder a slave without getting caught in order to become a full-fledged warrior.

Jonathan Garner wrote:
I'll consider posting about them next. :D
:dieshappy:

Author:  AzlynRose [ March 3rd, 2012, 11:24 am ]
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These sound fascinating, Jonathan! I love their green fur. I don't really have any thing else to ask at the moment, since everyone else has already been asking questions. But I'll let you know if I think of any. :D

Author:  RunningWolf [ March 3rd, 2012, 12:56 pm ]
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Suiauthon wrote:
RunningWolf wrote:
That would be similar to how the Spartans initiated new warriors I think.
As I recall, a Spartan initiate had to murder a slave without getting caught in order to become a full-fledged warrior.


That too, but I think they also were locked in a cell with a lion and they had to kill it...or be killed.

Author:  Aragorn [ March 3rd, 2012, 6:39 pm ]
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AzlynRose wrote:
These sound fascinating, Jonathan! I love their green fur. I don't really have any thing else to ask at the moment, since everyone else has already been asking questions. But I'll let you know if I think of any. :D

Thank you, Azlyn. :D

Author:  Suiauthon Mimetes [ March 4th, 2012, 12:06 am ]
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RunningWolf wrote:
Suiauthon wrote:
RunningWolf wrote:
That would be similar to how the Spartans initiated new warriors I think.
As I recall, a Spartan initiate had to murder a slave without getting caught in order to become a full-fledged warrior.


That too, but I think they also were locked in a cell with a lion and they had to kill it...or be killed.

Ah. Cool. :D

Author:  Airianna Valenshia [ March 12th, 2012, 8:10 am ]
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I thought about making the tiger in my photo manip a Jader, Jonathan. :)

Author:  Aragorn [ March 12th, 2012, 8:28 am ]
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That would have been neat. :cool: I've thought about trying to photo manipulate one...

Author:  Lady Elanor [ March 12th, 2012, 10:17 am ]
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Airianna Mimetes wrote:
I thought about making the tiger in my photo manip a Jader, Jonathan. :)


That would have been awesome. :cool:

Author:  RedWing the Purple [ March 12th, 2012, 11:01 am ]
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These creatures are awesome. :D Jaders - fits them quite well. The green pelt is my favorite part about them. Large cats in themselves are awesome. Green large cats? That's a new level entirely. ;)

I don't have any questions right now, but I'll be sure to think of some. :D

Author:  Aragorn [ March 12th, 2012, 5:40 pm ]
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Thank you, RedWing. :D I look forward to any questions you may have.

Jonathan Garner wrote:
I've thought about trying to photo manipulate one...

I've started working on it now, though whether it will turn out remains to be seen. ;)

Author:  Airianna Valenshia [ March 12th, 2012, 6:29 pm ]
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Cool. :D Can't wait.

Author:  Aragorn [ March 13th, 2012, 7:18 am ]
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Here is a rough conceptual picture of a jader stalking prey.


Author:  Airianna Valenshia [ March 13th, 2012, 7:19 am ]
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I love it!!

Author:  Aragorn [ March 13th, 2012, 7:19 am ]
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Thank you, Airianna. :D

Author:  Airianna Valenshia [ March 13th, 2012, 7:43 am ]
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I think the green adds to the stealthy hunter feel...

Author:  Aragorn [ March 13th, 2012, 7:47 am ]
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Yes, I thought so, too. :D

Author:  AzlynRose [ March 13th, 2012, 8:01 am ]
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Oooooh! Green cats! What's not to like? ;) Very nice. :D

Author:  Aragorn [ March 13th, 2012, 8:35 am ]
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Thank you, Azlyn. :D

Author:  RunningWolf [ March 13th, 2012, 9:01 am ]
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Nice!

Author:  Calista Bethelle [ March 13th, 2012, 11:27 am ]
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*Gasp* That. is. amazing! :dieshappy: *Loves the idea of a green tiger*

Author:  Zoe M. Scrivener [ March 13th, 2012, 12:32 pm ]
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Very nice, Jonathan!

Author:  Aragorn [ March 13th, 2012, 7:53 pm ]
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Thank you, RunningWolf, Milly, and Raven Z. :D

Author:  Calista Bethelle [ March 13th, 2012, 8:23 pm ]
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I have a 'baby jader'. :dieshappy: My tiger-striped kitty almost looks green... sorry, I'm off-topic. :roll:

*Hem*

I forget..did you state how much bigger than tigers jaders are?

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