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Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ August 23rd, 2011, 12:42 pm ]
Post subject:  I need a Unique Feature

Howdy all,
In my world I have what are called the Nomahar. All I have worked out thus far is that they are taller than humans, slightly orange-tinted, and have the gift of Wisdom (the humans have the gift of Will). I need something...anything...to make them unique from elves (which is the whole reason I created them in the first place). I'm inclined just to make them humans blessed with Wisdom, and make the Western Humans blessed with Will, but I don't know if I want a humans-only world.

eru

Author:  kingjon [ August 23rd, 2011, 1:03 pm ]
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How fixed are you on having these have Wisdom? I think it might be a nice balance for humans to be gifted in Will, elves in Wisdom, and this other race gifted in Compassion.

Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ August 23rd, 2011, 2:05 pm ]
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@kingjon: I don't actually have elves. This is the race I've made up to use instead of having elves. :)

eru

Author:  kingjon [ August 23rd, 2011, 2:17 pm ]
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Ah. I see. Hmm. That complicates things; "elves" have been portrayed in so many different ways by so many different authors that your some readers might insist on thinking of your not-elves as elves despite all protestations to the contrary. :) But ...

Here's one idea. If you're set on Wisdom for them, how about making it be wisdom beyond their years and making them be the comparatively short-lived race?

Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ August 23rd, 2011, 2:20 pm ]
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Ooh, I do like that idea :D *decides to do so*

Do you think they could maybe also be not skilled or choosing not to fight in war or something? Or perhaps just less-inclined than the humans?

eru

Author:  kingjon [ August 23rd, 2011, 2:31 pm ]
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Well, there are two parts to wise action---the wisdom and discernment to know what actions are wise and necessary, and the courage and will to carry them out despite the costs. We know from history (Solomon being but the most notable example) that neither wisdom nor knowledge is sufficient. Perhaps among your not-elves :) the courage, determination, and will to carry out a wise but costly plan---or even to act at all, if they see the costs of all the options and are wise enough to shun the evil but not brave enough to choose the good---would be as rare as wisdom is among human beings.

Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ August 23rd, 2011, 2:42 pm ]
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That's also a good idea :) I really should write up a piece on these guys for my subforum now. Thanks for your help! :D

eru

Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ August 23rd, 2011, 3:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I need a Unique Feature

Kingjon, thanks for all your help! :) Here's the thread I've updated to include this:

www.holyworlds.org/fantasy/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=2249

eru

Author:  Willow Wenial Mimetes [ October 3rd, 2011, 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I need a Unique Feature

I just had to add this question in. Is it necessary that they be orange-tinted? How orange are we talking about here?

Author:  Suiauthon Mimetes [ October 4th, 2011, 12:15 am ]
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*chuckles* You sound like eru whenever I mention Murel's purple-tinted sky. :rofl:

I imagine it wouldn't be tinted much... *pokes eru*

Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ October 4th, 2011, 6:23 am ]
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No...I just needed something to distinguish them from humans and orange skin was what I settled on. Too much like Avvytar, though :P Any other ideas? :D

@Sui:Is it necessary that the sky be the forbidden color? How forbidden-colored are we talking about here? :rofl:

eru

Author:  Suiauthon Mimetes [ October 4th, 2011, 8:24 pm ]
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Avatar wasn't just tinted, it was completely dyed.
I think it works as is. :D

*chuckles*
What makes purple forbidden? :rofl:

Author:  Willow Wenial Mimetes [ October 4th, 2011, 8:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I need a Unique Feature

I actually like the idea of a purple sky...A LOT.

but more on topic...orange just reminds me of oompa loompas. :D

Author:  Suiauthon Mimetes [ October 4th, 2011, 9:24 pm ]
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*chuckles*
I imagine the Nomahar with a very light tinge of orange. Not much at all.

(I should post about Murel's sky someday...)

Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ October 5th, 2011, 5:48 am ]
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It is quite light. :) *must think of a couple other more interesting features as well*

(Yes, you should ;))

eru

Author:  Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes [ October 5th, 2011, 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I need a Unique Feature

One problem may be that some humans are orange tinted. I like the idea of making them wise, wavering, and short-lived. What about the idea of them having cleft, or grooved, nails? Or long eyebrows?

Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ October 5th, 2011, 8:52 pm ]
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Long eyebrows? :rofl:

I'm liking the things that have already been brainstormed in the thread, but these are not physical things - I'd like some things to physically distinguish. But I can't think of anything that isn't cliche/overused. The only thing I have now is some ideas with their hair :P

eru

Author:  Riniel Jasmina [ October 5th, 2011, 8:58 pm ]
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Webbed toes. I would need to know what they tend to do physically to know what they should look like physically. You could make their limbs proportionally long for their bodies...

Author:  Suiauthon Mimetes [ October 5th, 2011, 11:22 pm ]
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You could make them have almost no hair. Perhaps they have no body hair and the hair on their heads grow only an inch naturally.
*is not sure if he likes his own ideas* :P

Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ October 6th, 2011, 8:45 pm ]
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@Sui: Well, they do live mainly in warmer climates.

@Riniel: Webbed feet are interesting; but that makes me think of Marsh-wiggles :rofl:

Hm. I think the warmer climate thing could be worth investigating :) *gives Mark cupcakes for reminding of that*

eru

Author:  Suiauthon Mimetes [ October 7th, 2011, 12:30 am ]
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*grins* I'm not sure how the one reminded you of the other... but I'm glad to help. :D (the cupcake isn't too bad either ;) )

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