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| Author: | Aeleknight [ July 19th, 2011, 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | They are too perfect |
The elves of my stories have superior strength, superior speed, superior intelligence, superior skill and superior vitality. Is there any kind of plausible weakness or drawback I can give them because I want them to be more even with my other races. I have been thinking of smaller population and trying to figure that out demographically. Can anyone help? |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ July 19th, 2011, 6:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Just so I'm clear, are you trying to figure out a weakness for them? |
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| Author: | Aeleknight [ July 19th, 2011, 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Airianna Valenshia wrote: Just so I'm clear, are you trying to figure out a weakness for them? Right, I don't want them to be so much better than the other races. |
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| Author: | The Bard [ July 19th, 2011, 8:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
How about a short life span? I've always wanted to make a story where the elves only lived for say 20 years before they died. Just a thought. |
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| Author: | Aeleknight [ July 19th, 2011, 8:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
The Bard wrote: How about a short life span. I've always wanted to make a story where the elves only lived for say 20 years before they died. Just a thought. That sounds good. That could work. |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ July 19th, 2011, 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
*nods * I think Joe's suggestion is really good. I mean, if they are going to be so superior in everything, then having them live such short lives would be a good way to keep the other races from growing dependant on them, in a way. And it isn’t a cheesy weakness, which is what I like most about it. It’s realistic. I could see that being a drawback. |
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| Author: | Aeleknight [ July 19th, 2011, 10:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Airianna Valenshia wrote: *nods * I think Joe's suggestion is really good. I mean, if they are going to be so superior in everything, then having them live such short lives would be a good way to keep the other races from growing dependant on them, in a way. And it isn’t a cheesy weakness, which is what I like most about it. It’s realistic. I could see that being a drawback. I like that a lot. I think I am going to use that. Maybe not as extreme as twenty. Maybe something like forty or thirty. That brings up a lot of questions like aging and adolescence. |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ July 19th, 2011, 11:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Yeah, if their age is cut down, you'll have to do a lot of development in the race and how they function. I mean, you cut 20 down (using an 80 year lifespan as your guide) and you are looking at marriable age being 5. |
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| Author: | Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ July 20th, 2011, 8:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Maybe they have an intense period of schooling until say, age 7, and then are immediately set to learn a craft and start a family. I'm assuming they'd develop faster, as by the time they'd be a full-grown adult they'd be ready to die if you stuck to the human system  eru |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ July 20th, 2011, 8:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Right, they'd need accelerated growth development. |
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| Author: | Aeleknight [ July 20th, 2011, 11:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Airianna Valenshia wrote: Right, they'd need accelerated growth development. These elves are naturally smarter anyway. At the end of their life do you think their bodies could be more like the body of a late middle aged man rather than an eighty year old? |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ July 20th, 2011, 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Yes, I think you could have them die while in their prime. However, you will still need to accelerate their maturing process, I think. |
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| Author: | Aeleknight [ July 20th, 2011, 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Airianna Valenshia wrote: Yes, I think you could have them die while in their prime. However, you will still need to accelerate their maturing process, I think. That is what I was thinking. |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ July 21st, 2011, 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
*nods * Actually, if you think about it, if they die in their prime, it sort of gives them that ageless quality, you know? They don't really age, in the sense that they don't get old. |
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| Author: | Aeleknight [ July 21st, 2011, 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Airianna Valenshia wrote: *nods * Actually, if you think about it, if they die in their prime, it sort of gives them that ageless quality, you know? They don't really age, in the sense that they don't get old. Right, I wanted to maintain that classical elfin aspect. 
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ July 21st, 2011, 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Prezactically. 
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| Author: | The Bard [ July 21st, 2011, 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
This is starting to sound really good! |
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| Author: | Aeleknight [ July 22nd, 2011, 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
The Bard wrote: This is starting to sound really good! Agreed.
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| Author: | Willow Wenial Mimetes [ July 24th, 2011, 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
What I think could also be interesting was if you got rid of their ability to deal well with time.  So like, what if they just didn't really understand the passage of time well? An 20 year old elf, might marry one on death's door because they just didn't realize how little time the other one had, etc...Just an idea.
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| Author: | Aeleknight [ July 25th, 2011, 11:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Willow Wenial wrote: What I think could also be interesting was if you got rid of their ability to deal well with time. So like, what if they just didn't really understand the passage of time well? An 20 year old elf, might marry one on death's door because they just didn't realize how little time the other one had, etc...Just an idea. That is a good idea, though with the role of their creation I think it will take a different path. Thanks!
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| Author: | Donn Quixote [ August 2nd, 2011, 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
For the maturing process, why don't you say (If they have intense schooling until age 7, etc.) that by the age of 7, they have a grown mind and a full grown body of a young adult. By the age of 10, they could look, compared to a human, 25-30 years old, etc, etc. If they are such incredible warriors, perhaps (as you mentioned about reduced population) they have little time for families, which means not as many children and a very small population. It is here that the "no sense of time" could come in. Besides being warriors and spending their time doing that, many may want to start families, but believe they have all the time in the world. By the end of their life, they do not realize they have run out of time until they are on their death bed, and even then, they may not realize they are at the end of their life in the physical world. Just some thoughts, -Donn Q. |
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| Author: | Aeleknight [ August 2nd, 2011, 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
Donn Quixote wrote: For the maturing process, why don't you say (If they have intense schooling until age 7, etc.) that by the age of 7, they have a grown mind and a full grown body of a young adult. By the age of 10, they could look, compared to a human, 25-30 years old, etc, etc. If they are such incredible warriors, perhaps (as you mentioned about reduced population) they have little time for families, which means not as many children and a very small population. It is here that the "no sense of time" could come in. Besides being warriors and spending their time doing that, many may want to start families, but believe they have all the time in the world. By the end of their life, they do not realize they have run out of time until they are on their death bed, and even then, they may not realize they are at the end of their life in the physical world. Just some thoughts, -Donn Q. Thanks Miss Donn! Those are some great ideas, thanks!
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ August 9th, 2011, 10:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: They are too perfect |
I like those suggestions. 
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