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PostPosted: June 3rd, 2011, 9:32 am 
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Here is the only tonal writing system I have made. It has ten tonal marks, but only eight tones, two of the marks not being true tones.

One of them means that you delete the tone that would normally be there, and another mark indicates that the previous consonant is ejective.

Here is a link that talks about ejective consonants: the descriptions may not help you much, but at the bottom their is a sample list so that you can listen to some of them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ejective_consonant

Here is the script.
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By the way, I called ejective consonants glottalized consonants in the attachment. I am pretty sure they mean the same thing.

Aleph, the Hebrew letter I mentioned in the attachment, represents a glottal stop. Here is a link about the glottal stop. There is a button on the right with an arrow on it that will play someone saying the sound (very useful). It is the sound we always make before a vowel when there is no consonant before it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glottal_stop

Here is a link that talks about tones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_%28linguistics%29

Hurrah for unfamiliarity!

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PostPosted: June 6th, 2011, 8:33 am 
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:shock: You Lausers scare me sometimes ;) That being said, I'm looking forward to diving into this language and the Wikipedia articles. Tonal languages have fascinated me ever since I've heard Thai being spoken :)

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PostPosted: June 6th, 2011, 6:33 pm 
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Ejectives consonants and glottalized consonants are not the same thing. Since neither of them exist in English, and I'm not exactly an expert, I'm not certain how to explain the difference. Basically, ejectives are normally consonants, except that you add glottal motion (you move your Adam's Apple) consciously to accentuate the sound. Glottalization is more like adding a breath from the throat to your consonant.

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 Post subject: Re: Garad script
PostPosted: June 8th, 2011, 7:43 am 
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eruheran wrote:
I've heard Thai being spoken :)


Where did you hear it? I heard a glimpse of a language that was probably tonal once. I hope I can listen to some tonal, and click, languages. I will probably make a click writing system soon.

Here is a link about click consonants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Click_consonant

Neil of Erk wrote:
Basically, ejectives are normally consonants, except that you add glottal motion (you move your Adam's Apple) consciously to accentuate the sound. Glottalization is more like adding a breath from the throat to your consonant.


That sounds right. I read an article about the Mayan writing system that called some consonants "glottalized," and described them as you described ejectives.

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PostPosted: June 8th, 2011, 9:47 am 
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Tsahraf wrote:
Neil of Erk wrote:
Basically, ejectives are normally consonants, except that you add glottal motion (you move your Adam's Apple) consciously to accentuate the sound. Glottalization is more like adding a breath from the throat to your consonant.


That sounds right. I read an article about the Mayan writing system that called some consonants "glottalized," and described them as you described ejectives.


Hm...was that article on the internet?

BTW, I'm not an expert, but I am basing my statements on what I have studied about linguistics.

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Redemption is to be purchased, to have a price paid. So I was redeemed from my master sin, and from justice, which demanded my death. For He paid the price of sin by becoming sin, and met the demands of justice by dying for us.

For all men have a master. But a man cannot have two masters. For he will love one and hate the other. You cannot serve God and sin. So I die to the old, as He died, and I am resurrected to the new, as He was resurrected.

Note: Ebed is Hebrew for bondsman, Eleutheros is Greek for unrestrained (not a slave).


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PostPosted: June 9th, 2011, 4:45 am 
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Here is the quote:
"The consonants followed by apostrophes are the "glottalized" versions of the plain consonants. A glottalized consonant is pronounced like a normal consonant, but immediately before the vowel is pronounced, the larynx is constricted (as if to pronounce a glottal stop) to produce a somewhat explosive sound."

Here is the link to the article. By the way, Ancient scripts.com has very much information.
http://www.ancientscripts.com/maya.html

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 Post subject: Re: Garad script
PostPosted: June 9th, 2011, 9:52 am 
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After reviewing my book, I realized that ejectives are a form of glottalization. For an ejective, you move your larynx up, for an implosive, you move the larynx down. The glottalization your article describes sounds like an ejective to me.

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Redemption is to be purchased, to have a price paid. So I was redeemed from my master sin, and from justice, which demanded my death. For He paid the price of sin by becoming sin, and met the demands of justice by dying for us.

For all men have a master. But a man cannot have two masters. For he will love one and hate the other. You cannot serve God and sin. So I die to the old, as He died, and I am resurrected to the new, as He was resurrected.

Note: Ebed is Hebrew for bondsman, Eleutheros is Greek for unrestrained (not a slave).


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PostPosted: June 9th, 2011, 7:27 pm 
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@Tsahraf: I have been to Thailand once, for a month :) Fascinating language :D

But what you all are discussing now is beyond my reach so I will drop out of this thread :)

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