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| Author: | Promised [ March 30th, 2011, 4:14 pm ] |
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Hey all! So, I have a fascination with dragons. I love to read stories with them in it. I think that the way they are described is beautiful and strong, and they are amazing fantastical creatures. I would like to write a story (I have an idea for one any way) that has dragons in it, but I am faced with a moral conflict. In the Bible Satan is described as the Dragon, and God has nothing good to say about him, and we all know it. My question to you is this: Do you think that it is ok to use dragons in your stories? How do you feel about them? Thank you all! God bless, Promised P.S. After thought! If you guys have any dragons in your stories, what are they like? Do you have any art on them? I would love to see it, and I would love to hear about your dragons. |
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| Author: | Leandra Falconwing [ March 30th, 2011, 4:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
I definitely think it's okay to use dragons. For one thing, Satan is also described as a lion prowling about, but I've never gotten the impression that lions are inherently evil because of that. So I would say, feel free to use dragons. They're pretty awesome. 
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| Author: | Whackem [ March 30th, 2011, 7:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
He's also a snake. And though generally seen as evil and menacing, they're one of God's creations, just like Dragons. (Yes, I'm a firm believer in Dragons.) |
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| Author: | Riniel Jasmina [ March 30th, 2011, 7:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Using the same examples a bit, Jesus is also referred to as a lion, and in Exodus, a snake in the wilderness brings healing. I would tend to think snakes are more closely linked to Satan than dragons, but we're still told to be as cunning as serpents. Dogs very often have ill connections in the Bible as well. If you notice, the most literal example of a dragon, the leviathan with sparks coming from its mouth, isn't called evil. He's just a powerful creature of God that was not meant to be tamed. Hope that helps
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ March 31st, 2011, 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Y'all really are trying to ruin my dragon blog post! I find your thoughts interesting, and honestly, this is not the first time I have heard this question asked. So, I have a question. What is your view of Narnia then? Satan is very often portrayed as a lion. More so than as a Dragon, actually. So do you feel that Lewis should not have portrayed Aslan as a lion because of this association? Also, Biblically and Historically, Dragons were real creatures created by God. They really did breathe fire. What about snakes? You have the fall of man which includes a snake. Do you feel it is wrong to portray snakes? (I almost do just because I dislike them). I think we have to be careful that we don't link creatures likened unto Satan as being Satanic. The Bible also likens Christ to a Lion and a Lamb, but that does not make these animals sacred or Holy. Thus, I do not feel that dragons can be seen as unholy due to the association. As a side note, Dragons are not seen throughout history as icons of evil. In fact, they were seen as creatures of life and vitality by many cultures. |
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| Author: | Whackem [ March 31st, 2011, 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Another clue to proof of their existance. How could so many cultures, who had never had any contact with each other, all have the same myths about the same creatures if they never existed? Which also raises the question: What about little people? (Faries, gnomes, Brownies, Leperchauns) All cultures have legends about them too... Hmm
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| Author: | Promised [ March 31st, 2011, 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Wow! This helps so much, guys! I mainly asked because my mother thinks that dragons are very satanic, but I love them! Don't get me started on Narnia, buddy. C.S. Lewis did a marvelous job at portraying Jesus as Aslan. He made his words so descriptive that you could tell who he was talking about even though Aslan had no "direct" association with Christ. |
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| Author: | KathrineROID [ April 1st, 2011, 2:37 pm ] |
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I'm under the impression that what the world knows as dragons were actually dinosaurs. My mom and I were talking one day and we came to the conclusion that dinosaurs - at least many of them - exhaled something that looked smoky, which lead to the "fire-breathing dragon" folklore. But if your mom truly has problems with you using dragons, perhaps a heart-to-heart is in order. Probably she is just concerned about the way many people use the fantasies of dragons for evil. For many reasons, I wouldn't write about something my parents didn't want me writing. |
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| Author: | Promised [ April 1st, 2011, 7:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
I think that is her only problem, the fact that they are depicted as evil by so many people today. She doesn't see the beautiful side of them. 
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ April 1st, 2011, 7:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Well, we are actually going to have a blog series on this soon, Promised, and perhaps she would like to read it with you. |
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| Author: | Promised [ April 1st, 2011, 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Kait Vanyalanthierel wrote: Well, we are actually going to have a blog series on this soon, Promised, and perhaps she would like to read it with you. I would love to! |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ April 1st, 2011, 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Then I will be sure to send you a link to each of the four part series when they are posted.
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| Author: | Promised [ April 5th, 2011, 6:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Thank you! |
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| Author: | Riniel Jasmina [ April 5th, 2011, 6:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Promised wrote: I mainly asked because my mother thinks that dragons are very satanic, but I love them! My father can be the same way. Otherwise, he's fine with me being a reptiliomaniac.
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| Author: | Promised [ April 7th, 2011, 3:59 pm ] |
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Riniel Jasmina wrote: Promised wrote: I mainly asked because my mother thinks that dragons are very satanic, but I love them! My father can be the same way. Otherwise he's fine with me being a reptiliomaniac. Reptiliomaniac... I like that one 
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ April 14th, 2011, 9:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Hey, Promised! Here is the first article in my four part dragon series. I hope this helps. http://www.holyworlds.org/blog/?p=451 |
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| Author: | 6stringedsignseeker [ April 14th, 2011, 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Great blog post, Airianna. I can't wait to read the other three parts.
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ April 14th, 2011, 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Thanks. They are all written up, they just have to fall into the schedule somewhere.
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| Author: | Promised [ April 14th, 2011, 5:31 pm ] |
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Thank you! I'll have to fit it into my computer time some time soon.
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ April 14th, 2011, 5:32 pm ] |
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No problem.
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| Author: | Promised [ April 15th, 2011, 6:55 pm ] |
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I got to read it! It was great! Helpful, too. I can't wait to read the other three parts! |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ April 15th, 2011, 8:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Oh I am so glad!!! 
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| Author: | Promised [ April 16th, 2011, 12:10 pm ] |
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You did very well. 
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ April 18th, 2011, 11:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Why the tongue? |
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| Author: | Promised [ April 19th, 2011, 3:27 pm ] |
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Oops. Sorry. I forgot that the : p was that face. I meant
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ April 19th, 2011, 3:31 pm ] |
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*chuckles * Rotten smilies 
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| Author: | Promised [ April 20th, 2011, 5:45 pm ] |
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Tell me about it 
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ April 25th, 2011, 11:06 am ] |
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Part 2 of this series will be coming out this Thursday, Promise. I will give you a link when it is up. |
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| Author: | Reiyen [ April 26th, 2011, 12:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
In my opinion, Satan is not a dragon because of his evil, but because of his majesty. Satan is described as equaling the mightiest beast of legend, myth, and history that we earthling humans have ever known or imagined. Mankind fears/feared dragons. God wants us to fear Satan. Basically, it is seeing Satan as dragonic rather than dragons as Satanic. |
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| Author: | Riniel Jasmina [ April 26th, 2011, 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
That's a really neat way to look at it... I never thought of it that way.
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ April 26th, 2011, 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
So, you wanna write a dragon blog post next, Reiyen?
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| Author: | Promised [ April 27th, 2011, 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
I never thought of putting it that way! That is really neat! Great, I appreciate you sending me the links
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ April 28th, 2011, 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
http://www.holyworlds.org/blog/?p=467#more-467 Here is part 2. Enjoy. I hope.
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| Author: | Promised [ May 2nd, 2011, 5:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Wow, that helps a lot as well! I got a book (art book) about dragons last week. There are actually several "types" of dragons according to "legend" one of them is the serpent-like dragon that has no wings but has all of the characteristics of a winged dragon
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ May 3rd, 2011, 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Oh I'm so glad! Yes, you are right. There are multiple different kinds of legendary dragons. |
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| Author: | Promised [ May 3rd, 2011, 9:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
It gets me more and more excited about dragons I had no idea that there were so many "species" of dragons! It is actually quite facinating. 
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| Author: | Suiauthon Mimetes [ May 3rd, 2011, 11:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
*agrees with Promised* |
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| Author: | Promised [ May 9th, 2011, 9:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Suiauthon wrote: *agrees with Promised* Danka (yes that is probably spelled wrong) |
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| Author: | Suiauthon Mimetes [ May 9th, 2011, 11:33 pm ] |
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Promised wrote: Suiauthon wrote: *agrees with Promised* Danka (yes that is probably spelled wrong) Technically yes, but I wouldn't count it spelled wrong if you pronounced it the way you spell it. |
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| Author: | Promised [ May 10th, 2011, 1:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Suiauthon wrote: Promised wrote: Suiauthon wrote: *agrees with Promised* Danka (yes that is probably spelled wrong) Technically yes, but I wouldn't count it spelled wrong if you pronounced it the way you spell it. Well, we'll say it counts this time.
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ May 19th, 2011, 9:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Here is part three in the series, Promised. Dragons: Of the Past (part 3 of 4) |
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| Author: | Promised [ May 19th, 2011, 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
So good, and sooo helpful! |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ May 19th, 2011, 4:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
I'm so glad, Promised. Every week I post one of these I think "I hope she is encouraged/edified". |
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| Author: | Promised [ May 20th, 2011, 3:23 pm ] |
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Airianna Valenshia wrote: I'm so glad, Promised. Every week I post one of these I think "I hope she is encouraged/edified". Well you have thus succeeded I am very encouraged and am even more excited about using dragons in my story.
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ May 20th, 2011, 3:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Yes! I'm so thrilled to hear that. One point for the dragon writers! *licks finger and writes an imaginary tick mark in the air * |
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| Author: | Promised [ May 23rd, 2011, 4:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Airianna Valenshia wrote: Yes! I'm so thrilled to hear that. One point for the dragon writers! *licks finger and writes an imaginary tick mark in the air * Haha. Yay us! |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ May 23rd, 2011, 5:34 pm ] |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ June 14th, 2011, 9:05 pm ] |
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Here is the final post, Promise. http://www.holyworlds.org/blog/?p=513 |
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| Author: | TearsWeHaveShed [ June 15th, 2011, 8:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dragons!? |
Boy, I guess you guys aren't gonna like me much since all the Dragons in my stories are evil. Phoenixes take the -Awesome creature of good- spot.
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| Author: | Elanhil [ June 15th, 2011, 8:45 am ] |
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TearsWeHaveShed wrote: Boy, I guess you guys aren't gonna like me much since all the Dragons in my stories are evil. Phoenixes take the -Awesome creature of good- spot. 
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