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| Author: | Lady Eruwaedhiel [ November 30th, 2010, 4:36 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Weapon Recommendations | 
| So far all my characters fight with broadswords. For the strong, stocky race of Haethor, that isn't such a bad thing. But for my Elvarians with a light build and quick movements, it's not quite acceptable. I'm not very knowledgeable about weapons and so I'd like some recommendations of what my races could use. I thought about katanas for the Elvarians, but decided to make my decision based on some people with more experience. *shrug* Here I am. Here are some physical characteristics of my races: Humans: Typical. Average height, no unusual characteristics. Elvarians: Tall, lithe, light build, quick movements. Tulirans: Taller than Elvarians, lithe, slightly muscled, very graceful. Raechal: Short, thin, quick but not graceful. Haethor: Strong, thick, moderate height, excellent eyesight. Sivanis: Moderate height, muscular, long limbs and excellent senses of touch, smell and taste. Have at it, weapons people.   | |
| Author: | Riniel Jasmina [ November 30th, 2010, 8:34 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Humans: broad swords and battle axes Elvarians: long swords and flamberges Tulirans: Bow staffs/spears Raechal: Kataras and stilettos Haethor: bows and claymores Sivanis: anything that's on fire... That's the best I could come up with right now. Hope it helps   | |
| Author: | Lady Eruwaedhiel [ December 1st, 2010, 2:12 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Wow, that's a nice list. I'll have to look into those. Thanks for that, Riniel!  Riniel Jasmina wrote: Sivanis: anything that's on fire... Where did you get that?  They're a water people -- actually afraid of fire.  That's funny though. | |
| Author: | Lady Vilisse Mimetes [ December 1st, 2010, 5:21 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Wiki is a friend of mine! Humans: Long Sword, Broad Sword, Spatha (roman type sword), Spear, Bow Elvarians: Scimitar, Sabre, Stiletto, Shuriken, Bow Tulirans: Swordstaff, Sabre, Pike, Bow Raechal: Spatha, War hammer, Mace/Morning star, Falchion, Throwing Axe Haethor: Zweihander (german type sword), Lochaber Axe, Shuriken Sivanis: Halberd, Swordstaff, Katara, Long Bow | |
| Author: | Riniel Jasmina [ December 1st, 2010, 9:37 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| I thought fire because their heightened sense would make it easier to produce flammable things and their long limbs could keep it far enough from their bodies. | |
| Author: | Lady Eruwaedhiel [ December 2nd, 2010, 10:29 am ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Oh, I see. I guess that would make sense. One of their customs is to burn only the greatest criminals at the stake, like the crucifixion was only reserved for the greatest criminals in Rome. I don't know if they would use it as a weapon, though. It's more of a fear-and-respect kind of deal. They like to fight with their hands, too. | |
| Author: | Lord Kieren Mimetes [ January 2nd, 2011, 7:29 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| I would give some suggestions, but I can't think of anything better than what's already been said. | |
| Author: | Neil of Erk [ January 2nd, 2011, 10:47 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| To me, Katana's should be out for a light-weight race. Instead, I would say recommend that the Elvarin's use two short swords or a single hand-and-a-half lightweight sword for the primary weapon. Throwing swords a longbows also make sense. | |
| Author: | Lady Eruwaedhiel [ January 3rd, 2011, 9:12 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Neil of Erk wrote: To me, Katana's should be out for a light-weight race. Would you mind explaining why? | |
| Author: | Lord Kieren Mimetes [ January 4th, 2011, 5:38 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Long knives or rapiers would also be good. | |
| Author: | Lady Eruwaedhiel [ January 5th, 2011, 5:38 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Rapiers offend me with their utterly disgusting flimsiness. *dramatic hand to forehead* Sorry ... one of my pet peeves.  Several of my Elves actually do use long knives, but not for fighting exclusively, more as a fallback. | |
| Author: | The Bard [ January 11th, 2011, 3:44 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| It would be neat to mix things up some and make elves use axes and dwarves use bows and stuff. | |
| Author: | Ciela Rose [ January 11th, 2011, 3:48 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| In Narnia the dwarves use bows and such. They don't have any elves there, but I can imagine C.S. Lewis mixing things up and giving them battleaxes.  *is motivated to look up weaponry on wikipedia* | |
| Author: | Neil of Erk [ January 12th, 2011, 12:21 am ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Actually, in the Silmarillion, several groups of Elves prefer axes as a weapon. | |
| Author: | Lady Eruwaedhiel [ January 13th, 2011, 4:44 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| I don't have any Dwarves, but the Haethor are my equivalent (medium height, stocky, good smiths, with eyesight like cats). That would be interesting. They could be good marksmen. Though, I think the weapons normally chosen for different races are chosen because they seem to fit the characteristics of the race. | |
| Author: | Whythawye [ January 15th, 2011, 2:48 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Lady Eruwaedhiel wrote: Rapiers offend me with their utterly disgusting flimsiness. *dramatic hand to forehead* Sorry ... one of my pet peeves.  Several of my Elves actually do use long knives, but not for fighting exclusively, more as a fallback. Ahem. * growls * Rapiers are close to my favorite blade weapons. The reason being that they actually aren't flimsy at all (though they aren't as strong, cutting-wise, as an axe or broadsword of course), and they are optimized for combat with the point. Fighting with the point is quite superior to edge fighting (you take a broadsword, give me a rapier, and I will beat you every time, promise you). I can explain why if you want.   | |
| Author: | PrincessoftheKing [ January 15th, 2011, 2:59 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| I want to know why!   | |
| Author: | Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ January 15th, 2011, 3:02 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| I know why! Because I am equally helpless with a rapier or a broadsword. So, if Jay did as claimed and handed me a broadsword, I'd be like, "Huh?"  eruheran | |
| Author: | Whackem [ February 24th, 2011, 5:03 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Humans (Cause we come in all shapes and sizes) can generally become masterful with any weapon. But those of a light build and lesser strength need something with which they can dart in quickly and leap away. Such as a spear (my most favorite), dagger, stilletto as some one already pointed out, The girlyest of blades: the rapier, or perhaps the saber or the scimitar. The short stocky type need a weapon with reach as they are generally not very fast such as Tridents, pole axes, glaives, halberds or something complimenting their strength: Hammers (Another favorite), Axes, maces, great clubs, cast iron cook-ware. Ranged: All cultures need some kind of ranged weapon. Wether it is a crossbow as is generally preferred by the shorter types as they are two short for long bows and their great strength allows them to actually draw it back. Long bows are generally associated with the more graceful of races but I agree with Joe... It's a fantasy, blow some purist's mind. | |
| Author: | Whackem [ February 24th, 2011, 5:06 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Sir Emeth Mimetes wrote: Lady Eruwaedhiel wrote: Rapiers offend me with their utterly disgusting flimsiness. *dramatic hand to forehead* Sorry ... one of my pet peeves.  Several of my Elves actually do use long knives, but not for fighting exclusively, more as a fallback. Ahem. * growls * Rapiers are close to my favorite blade weapons. The reason being that they actually aren't flimsy at all (though they aren't as strong, cutting-wise, as an axe or broadsword of course), and they are optimized for combat with the point. Fighting with the point is quite superior to edge fighting (you take a broadsword, give me a rapier, and I will beat you every time, promise you). I can explain why if you want.  Having read the works of Wycliff I am inclined to believe you, but rapiers do have theri weaknesess as do all weapons. But hand me a broad sword and you with a rapier and we shall see who walks away with all his limbs   | |
| Author: | K. C. Gaunt [ February 24th, 2011, 7:06 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| I'm not a weapons expert, but aren't rapiers, designed more for one-on-one encounters? Where as broadswords are better suited for battle-type situations? - Terra | |
| Author: | Varon [ February 25th, 2011, 11:01 am ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Correct. Rapiers are more for a duel-type encounter. Rapiers are stereotyped as being flimsy probably because of their lack of width. They also belong to a different era than the broadsword, an era in which guns control the battlefield. Broadswords were meant to endure the rigors of medieval warfare. | |
| Author: | Whythawye [ February 25th, 2011, 11:51 am ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Varon wrote: Correct. Rapiers are more for a duel-type encounter. Rapiers are stereotyped as being flimsy probably because of their lack of width. They also belong to a different era than the broadsword, an era in which guns control the battlefield.  Broadswords were meant to endure the rigors of medieval warfare. I.e. chopping through armor. Rapiers were meant to thrust through gaps in armor. | |
| Author: | Varon [ February 25th, 2011, 1:16 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| Right. | |
| Author: | The Bard [ February 25th, 2011, 1:41 pm ] | 
| Post subject: | Re: Weapon Recommendations | 
| I think one on one rapier vs. broadsword. I'd probably put my money on rapier. It has more maneuverability. (But broad swords win the awesomeness award  ) | |
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