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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 12th, 2010, 1:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Criet and their bague |
I usually don't invent my own unique fantasy creatures, so this is completely out of my league. But for NaNo this year, I am trying to push my bounds and write a story that falls outside of my genre comfort zone. And that means trying my hand at inventing my own critter! As such, I would greatly value any opinions that can help me develop this better. I would also appreciate thoughts on names; the current names are actually French words. Quote: The criet resembles a wingless cricket, about the size of a thumb, with two large eyes on the top of its flat head and a mouth underneath. It has seven legs, three pairs plus one under the head that acts like antenna and tongue. Its hard exoskeleton is smooth and matte and can be a variety of jewel and earth tones. Each different color of criet can chirp a single note at various volumes; together the creatures can form strange songs. The criet can vary the volume and duration of its chirp and will warble its call when in distress. Criet cannot fly or jump, but they can run and have good traction on vertical surfaces.
The criet only feeds on a specific type of bush called bague. Growing up to a yard tall, the bague has matted, spindly branches of chocolate-colored wood with navy flesh. The sage leaves are veinless and release navy juice when crushed. The juice, bark, and leaves of the bague are edible to humans and have a spicy taste. The leaves can be eaten raw, dried, or steeped, and the bark is typically hashed and stewed, though it can be dried like jerky. The juice is used as flavoring and dye. Criet spin a silk that is 1-cm in diameter (pencil-width). When fresh, the silk is navy-colored with a smooth texture; cut ends have a charred look. The silk will naturally stick to itself and to the braches of the bague, and it can be braided into rope and nets. Fresh silk is virtually unbreakable, but it quickly ages. After about a week, the silk turns white, hardens, and takes on a slick glass-like texture. White silk is highly fragile and will shatter if handled roughly. Sometimes criet silk is molded and allowed to harden into vases and art. Criet silk is waterproof and can withstand fire, but prolonged exposure hastens aging. Criet have a variety of natural predators; most insect-eating animals will prey on criet. However, criet are insanely curious about humans and have been known to approach humans and initiate “friendships.” They are docile, easily tamed, and will breed and spin in captivity as long as they are provided with bague bushes. |
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| Author: | Evening L. Aspen [ October 12th, 2010, 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
The criet sound really cute! Do most people like them, or do some regard them as pests (like some people are afraid of spiders and bees and such)? What part of the bague bush do the criet eat? Why do the criet spin silk? Does it have anything to do with attracting a mate, making a nest/egg sac, or anything like that? Usually the products of insects that we use for art and stuff serves a practical purpose for the insect itself. This sounds like the kind of bug that my littlest sister would like. She's always catching moths and "training" them to do tricks. Let me know if you catch any criet and maybe you could mail me a couple. |
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| Author: | Melody Kondrael [ October 12th, 2010, 2:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
Can I knit with that silk? |
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| Author: | Valia [ October 12th, 2010, 3:17 pm ] |
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That is really cool! I would like one for a pet |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 12th, 2010, 5:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
Thanks much, everyone! I very much appreciated the support & opinions. For the novel, I'm sending someone from this world into the universe where the criet live. I'll have to ask him to bring a few buggy friends back when he comes home at the end of November. Mel, as you know, you can knit with anything you can force around the needles! I wouldn't recommend knitting with this silk, though. It sticks to itself, and your knitted object would only last a week before it turned to glass. Knowing us, we might not even finish knitting it before it hardened! Evening, your questions were very thought-provoking - thank you! I mulled over your questions and developed logical answers. In general the criet are not pests. They stick to their own bush and are friendly with humans. My main characters like the bugs, but I might have a secondary character detest them at some point. (Good idea!) I've added this information to the paragraph about the bague: Quote: The leaves fade to white, turn bitter and crumbly, and fall in late autumn. When temperatures drop below freezing, the bush grows tiny navy berries in bunches of seven. The berries have a similar taste to the leaves and are used for the same purposes; they can also be dried and ground as a spice. The berries last until the temperature warms above freezing, when they dry, turn white, and drop off. Unless animals or humans carry the berries away, a new bush will grow near to the parent plant where the berries fall; as such, wild bague bushes usually grow in dense matts. The criet eat the leaves, which regenerate quickly, from spring to early fall. In the winter they eat the wood and the berries; they help keep the bush from overgrowing and spread the seeds farther from the parent plant. Criet in captivity will eat dried parts of the plant. And this paragraph about the criet's breeding habits. (Very good point!) Quote: Criet live in unorganized colonies wherever the bague is found. They typically sleep on or under their bush and stay near the colony, but they will stray to great distances if they have someone to follow – usually a human. They get along well with each other but do not tolerate other insects, birds, or other animals that would feed on their bush. Male criet spin silk year-round to mark territory against other insects. They will string the area around their bush with long lengths of silk, creating nets of parallel strands in hopes of deterring other animals. Female criet wind their silk into tiny egg sacks, filled with seven navy eggs apiece, which the males fertilize and hang on the branches of the bague. The eggs hibernate in the sack for about 3 weeks, at which point the newly hatched insects break the hardened sack and emerge. Criet will hang their egg sacks on other structures if kept in captivity, and they will weave their nets around any available surface. If they cannot find a structure to stick or hook their silk to, they will simply wind the silk across the floor, making it easy to harvest. What do you think? |
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| Author: | Melody Kondrael [ October 12th, 2010, 5:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
Philadelphia wrote: Mel, as you know, you can knit with anything you can force around the needles! I wouldn't recommend knitting with this silk, though. It sticks to itself, and your knitted object would only last a week before it turned to glass. Knowing us, we might not even finish knitting it before it hardened! Hehehe... we knows that very well, doesn't we? ;D (both re: knitting with anything and re: not finishing....) You know, what if I wanted to knit a bowl or a vase? I've seen that before, but usually felted. It could be... art! Can you dye the silk? What if you knitted up big sheets of it, dyed 'em, and let it turn to glass and make stained glass windows! Can you blend it with another fiber? What would a wool/criet blend feel like? |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 12th, 2010, 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
Ok, I'm a little late on this conversation, but I have a couple of short questions: Philadelphia wrote: and it can be braided into rope and nets. Fresh silk is virtually unbreakable, but it quickly ages. Why do people make rope and nets out of the silk if it turns to glass? I can see a fisherman casting a net into the sea and having it shatter against the side of the boat. Philadelphia wrote: the bush grows tiny navy berries in bunches of seven....Female criet wind their silk into tiny egg sacks, filled with seven navy eggs apiece, The number seven is the number of perfection in the Bible. Was weaving that in intentional, or just a random number? Finally, Philadelphia wrote: They will string the area around their bush with long lengths of silk, creating nets of parallel strands in hopes of deterring other animals. You could make them eat small winged insects that fly into this sticky trap and get caught. Just a suggestion. Hope that helped! |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 12th, 2010, 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
Melody, I have it written down that people do form it into vases and art and let it harden. Knitting is a valid form of construction. When hardened, it's opaque, so it wouldn't make a good window. (I will add the word "opaque" to my description for future reference.) I'm also going to say no to dying and blending. It's a rich navy when it's fresh, and it's somewhat slick. But thank you for the fun suggestions! ♥ Elanhil, you're not late at all. I just posted today, and any opinion is helpful! Because the silk is virtually unbreakable when it's fresh, it's highly useful as rope - but it only lasts a few days. For certain functions, it's invaluable. You just have to be careful how you use it and how long you store it. You can't set up the rope and leave it, because it will harden and break. (All of this I hope to work into the plot.) Seven is an important number in the Bible, and I do like the connection of recurring numbers. I picked 7 because it's a "nice," well-rounded number, not because I wanted to convey a certain meaning. 7 is also the number of different notes on the musical scale. I haven't worked it out yet, but I'd like to have seven colors of criet, one for each note. Because this is my fantasy world, I have decided against flowers. It's a good suggestion, but I have plans for one criet that follows the MC around... and I can't imagine the little guy eating other bugs. Thanks so much for the thoughts! This has greatly helped me refine my critter. |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 12th, 2010, 9:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
How do the berries form, then? So if somebody needed some rope very quickly they'd just use the silk? Also, 1 cm in thickness is more than a pencil. It's a tiny bit more than the width of a AA battery. (couldn't think of anything else) |
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| Author: | Evening L. Aspen [ October 12th, 2010, 11:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
I like the info you've added, Philli. I really like these little critters. I just got a random idea, you can use it if you'd like. What if the baby criet have something special in their saliva that softens the silk? Maybe the saliva could cause the silk to soften into a silky thread-type material but be extremely strong. The people in your world could use the softened nests to make really rare cloth, and maybe there would be people who bred criet just for the empty nests. Just an idea. |
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| Author: | Marshwriter [ October 13th, 2010, 1:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
Sounds really cool! But now you have me pining for biltong (local beef jerky) and remembering the silk worms I kept as pets. Okay, I don't know about other places, but here it's normal to keep the worms as pets. It also explains those kids by my garden... they must have found my small mulberry tree. Fiends! Hmmm... I feel a story coming... Will love to see what you do with this! |
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| Author: | Kiev Shawn [ October 13th, 2010, 5:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
Aw, now I want one too! |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 13th, 2010, 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
Elanhil, I don’t feel obliged to abide by this world’s rules of plant genetics, but I will make sure there’s a system to whatever I do decide. I’m working on my world’s geography now, and that may redefine my plant’s life cycle. So I’ll work on that. Thanks for the thoughts! I remeasured my pencil, and… I was looking at the wrong set of numbers on the ruler. ::groan:: Therefore, change 1-cm to ¼-in. Thanks for catching that. Yes, if you live in a region where the bague flourishes, criet and their silk are in ample supply, so you can use and replace the rope continuously. Evening, thanks so much for sharing your idea! I like that, but I would need a plot purpose for the softened silk and/or cloth, else I won’t be able to develop it properly. I’m still working on organizing the plot, and I will need some side quests to send characters on – I may be able to use the rare cloth for that. Thanks much!! That’s cool, Marsh! About the pets, not the stolen mulberry leaves. Thanks, Shawn! |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 13th, 2010, 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
Sorry if I came across as a bit too critical. |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 13th, 2010, 9:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
Not at all! I highly appreciate the opinion. But I didn't say there were no flowers whatsoever... just none on this particular bush. |
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| Author: | 6stringedsignseeker [ October 14th, 2010, 2:15 am ] |
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Ick! I hate insects... but I might be cool with these little guys. Free music |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 14th, 2010, 8:17 am ] |
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It seems a good way to inspire composers. |
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| Author: | Lord Kieren Mimetes [ October 15th, 2010, 8:59 pm ] |
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Wait, you said these creatures are curious, but how sentient are they? |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 15th, 2010, 9:56 pm ] |
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How do they avoid getting stepped on? Can they run very fast? |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 15th, 2010, 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
They are fairly sentient. If they decide they're your friend, they're quite responsive. If they're not really intrigued by you, and you're not bothering them, they ignore you. I am thinking of putting them about on the plane of dogs, or perhaps a little bit lower with cats. (No offence to cat owners - I am one! - but cats are simply more self-centered.) I'm sure they get stepped on occasionally. |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 15th, 2010, 10:19 pm ] |
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(That also depends on the cat. We have a dog who ignores her puppies and comes running over to us for attention, and a cat who loves her kittens and only leaves them to eat. What if they decide they are your friend and you ignore them? Will they just follow you around until you notice them? |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 16th, 2010, 5:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
That is a good point - I will have to think on that in terms of plot. Off the top of my head, I would say they're curious while you're in their territory. If you don't make an effort to be friendly back, they probably lose interest in you when you wander away. |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 16th, 2010, 10:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
That makes sense. But what if a human decides a criet is so cute and the criet doesn't like it? What would the criet do there? Bite him? |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 17th, 2010, 7:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
They can bite, but given their size and their plant-eating nature, it's not a very harsh bite. But it would get annoying quickly. You think of great questions! Thanks so much for helping me develop this! |
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| Author: | Kiev Shawn [ October 17th, 2010, 7:52 pm ] |
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It gets annoying like mosquitoes, but less itchy? |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 17th, 2010, 9:23 pm ] |
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So it's just a piercing bite, no kind of itchy thing like mosquitoes or red ants? Basically like a tiny cat bit you? |
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| Author: | Lord Kieren Mimetes [ October 18th, 2010, 10:33 am ] |
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They could still have sharp teeth even if they're herbivores. Like the panda bear. |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 18th, 2010, 11:31 am ] |
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Yes, just a nip. They are docile, and I want to portray them as lovable - so they are relatively harmless. Their skill and defense lies in their speed and ability to spin. |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 19th, 2010, 8:15 pm ] |
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Have you decided on colors yet? I suggest different earth tones like green and brown. |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 19th, 2010, 10:20 pm ] |
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I have a general idea of what colors I want - earth tones, plus muted jewels - but I haven't written up an official list yet. When I do, I'll post it here. Thanks for the encouragement! (And the reminder... I got lost in world-building and planning a flat earth.) |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 20th, 2010, 4:47 pm ] |
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Here we are: Quote: Seven colors of criet, one for each musical note: C – burnt orange D – mustard E – dark forest green F – navy G – dark purple A – maroon B – chocolate Female criet sing the flat of their color note. Young criet of both genders sing a sharp; when they reach maturity, their song deepens to its regular note. Thoughts? |
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| Author: | Kiev Shawn [ October 20th, 2010, 4:59 pm ] |
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Cool! (He won't leave you alone, will he? |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 20th, 2010, 5:10 pm ] |
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He who? Caleb? No, but I'm glad he won't, because all his questions are very helpful! (And I had forgotten to go back and make a color chart. Now it's done and happy.) |
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| Author: | Kiev Shawn [ October 20th, 2010, 5:24 pm ] |
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*coughyescough* |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 20th, 2010, 8:11 pm ] |
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What? Am I being annoying?? Anyway, nice colors. I especially like the dark green and chocolate ones. I also like how the notes vary on gender and age. Do their songs quicken with temperature like crickets? Also: Wikipedia wrote: Only the male crickets chirp. A large vein running along the bottom of each wing has "teeth," much like a comb does. The chirping sound is created by running the top of one wing along the teeth at the bottom of the other wing. As he does this, the cricket also holds the wings up and open, so that the wing membranes can act as acoustical sails. It is a popular myth that the cricket chirps by rubbing its legs together. Is this how they chirp too? Or do you have some other method?
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| Author: | Kiev Shawn [ October 20th, 2010, 8:17 pm ] |
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*gasp* Wikipedia? Really? I like how they sing different tones too. Has anybody trained them to sing, like an orchestra? |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 20th, 2010, 8:21 pm ] |
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What's so bad about Wikipedia?? That would be cool. I'd love to hear criet singing Bach. |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 20th, 2010, 9:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
No, you're not annoying me, Elanhil! You're being extremely helpful. Criet don't have wings, alas. They simply make their noise with their mouth (voice box). Yes, they "sing" together on occasion. They sing their own songs - strangely melodic ambiance. Even though they're docile, it would be difficult to train them to sing on command, but I wouldn't put it out of the range of possibility. Thanks much, you two! |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 21st, 2010, 7:13 am ] |
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It would be cool to see the criet sitting there with choir books |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ October 21st, 2010, 7:21 am ] |
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*rolls eyes* They'd be so tiny, who would make them? |
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| Author: | Kiev Shawn [ October 21st, 2010, 7:24 am ] |
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Mmm. Invent a race that can do so! |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ October 21st, 2010, 7:27 am ] |
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Fantasy opens endless possibilities. |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 21st, 2010, 11:28 am ] |
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You, sir Elanhil, are funny, and the rest of you are pleasantly amusing as well. I may actually invent a race that has a way with the criet, or at the very least specially gift a particular character. We shall see if the plot has room for it. I think I'll skip the choir books, unless Elanhil was volunteering to make them? |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 21st, 2010, 9:06 pm ] |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ October 21st, 2010, 9:21 pm ] |
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Now that was funny! |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 21st, 2010, 10:06 pm ] |
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LOL! Thank you very much, sir! |
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| Author: | Elanhil [ October 22nd, 2010, 3:55 am ] |
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Since when am I a sir? Did I get promoted? |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 22nd, 2010, 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
Any man who behaves himself honorably is worthy to be called "sir," especially on a fantasy forum. I'm currently redesigning my fantasy world's geography, and one defining factor is that there is no change of season. There is a variety of climates on the earth, but they are consistent all year within a region. So I need to decide what sort of climate the criet and their bague thrive in. If you had a choice (if you were the author), what kind of climate do you think suits the criet best? I'm leaning towards colder, maybe even snowy, but I'm curious what the rest of you think. |
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| Author: | Lord Kieren Mimetes [ October 22nd, 2010, 1:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
I was actually thinking more sunny forests. |
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| Author: | Rachel Newhouse [ October 22nd, 2010, 5:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Criet and their bague |
They could, Griffin, but I would like to keep them (as a unit) to one or two regions for simplicity. Also, to raise the value of their silk, I want them to be rare in certain regions. But you're right... a moderate forest would suit their personalities nicely. |
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