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I don't think it was right.

It wasn't wrong-at all-but it wasn't right.

If people actually followed God's plan for marriage the way he wanted us to, then there wouldn't be problems. Yes, the woman is supposed to submit to her husband, but at the same time, she is his equal-a half of him. For him to degrade her are leave her in the position to only provide him pleasure when he wishes it is about as useful as only using one half of your body. The wife is there for support, for advice, for love-she is his partner. The husband is her protector. Genesis 2, and probably in Ephesians 5.

And there is no reason for a married-or unmarried-woman to not be able to run a business. Look at the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31. Look at Lydia in Acts. Both of these women often handled the business, and handled it well. The habit of relegating the women to simply a pretty face probably comes from the 'submit to your husbands' verse, and ancient cultures.

The husband is the head, and the wife is the body. If the head doesn't let the body do anything, they won't really go anywhere.

I also don't think it was right because from that has come all of the feminist causes and such. From that come legal abortion, because it was the woman's right.

No. It was started with good intent, but not all that has come from it is good at all.

My opinion, and I sincerely did not mean to offend. I apologize if I had, but it was unintentional.

Author:	Faith_Blum [ June 17th, 2014, 10:02 am ]
Post subject:	The Women's Suffrage Movement
Many Christian women were involved in the suffrage movement, fighting for their right to vote and have equal freedoms. Was there a Biblical base for the movement? Can you back up your claim either way?

Author:	Lady Elanor [ June 17th, 2014, 10:03 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The Women's Suffrage Movement
I think it can be taken too far, like anything; but I believe that even though women can have very different roles in biblical terms to men that doesn't mean they can't vote. Their opinion is of equal importance, as people women and men alike should be heard, and one should not be favoured above the other. I don't know if I can think of scriptures to back this up, but whilst I know there can be very different roles for men and women (especially in the Church), I do not believe men are more important than women, or women are lesser than men. We are all equal in God's sight, and whilst I think equality can be taken too far in some cases, women and men are equals - and I believe that the suffrage movement had some good points. The woman was seen as the husbands property, she wasn't an individual anymore she was almost a servant. Leone Levi said: "By marriage, the personal identity of the woman is lost. Her person is completely sunk in that of her husband, and he acquires an absolute mastery over her person and effects. Hence her complete disability to contract legal obligations; and except in the event of separation by divorce, or other causes, a married woman in the United Kingdom cannot engage in trade." Deborah was a judge over Israel, yet before the suffrage movement here, you wouldn't have seen a woman in Parliament. I don't think the bible advocated a woman just being there as an object for the man - which I believe removing all a woman's rights makes her in the end. The bible talks about men and women being heirs together of the grace of life - a woman and man work together and become one but they are both equal, and both equally important. I think the suffrage movement was a good cause, but like everything not all of it was necessarily good - and some of it was taken too far.

Author:	Charlotte Jane [ June 17th, 2014, 10:03 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The Women's Suffrage Movement
I don't think it was right. It wasn't wrong-at all-but it wasn't right. If people actually followed God's plan for marriage the way he wanted us to, then there wouldn't be problems. Yes, the woman is supposed to submit to her husband, but at the same time, she is his equal-a half of him. For him to degrade her are leave her in the position to only provide him pleasure when he wishes it is about as useful as only using one half of your body. The wife is there for support, for advice, for love-she is his partner. The husband is her protector. Genesis 2, and probably in Ephesians 5. And there is no reason for a married-or unmarried-woman to not be able to run a business. Look at the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31. Look at Lydia in Acts. Both of these women often handled the business, and handled it well. The habit of relegating the women to simply a pretty face probably comes from the 'submit to your husbands' verse, and ancient cultures. The husband is the head, and the wife is the body. If the head doesn't let the body do anything, they won't really go anywhere. I also don't think it was right because from that has come all of the feminist causes and such. From that come legal abortion, because it was the woman's right. No. It was started with good intent, but not all that has come from it is good at all. My opinion, and I sincerely did not mean to offend. I apologize if I had, but it was unintentional.

Author:	Faith_Blum [ June 17th, 2014, 10:04 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The Women's Suffrage Movement
Charlotte Jane wrote: I don't think it was right. It wasn't wrong-at all-but it wasn't right. If people actually followed God's plan for marriage the way he wanted us to, then there wouldn't be problems. Yes, the woman is supposed to submit to her husband, but at the same time, she is his equal-a half of him. For him to degrade her are leave her in the position to only provide him pleasure when he wishes it is about as useful as only using one half of your body. The wife is there for support, for advice, for love-she is his partner. The husband is her protector. Genesis 2, and probably in Ephesians 5. And there is no reason for a married-or unmarried-woman to not be able to run a business. Look at the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31. Look at Lydia in Acts. Both of these women often handled the business, and handled it well. The habit of relegating the women to simply a pretty face probably comes from the 'submit to your husbands' verse, and ancient cultures. The husband is the head, and the wife is the body. If the head doesn't let the body do anything, they won't really go anywhere. I also don't think it was right because from that has come all of the feminist causes and such. From that come legal abortion, because it was the woman's right. No. It was started with good intent, but not all that has come from it is good at all. My opinion, and I sincerely did not mean to offend. I apologize if I had, but it was unintentional. Well said!

Author:	Charlotte Jane [ June 17th, 2014, 10:04 am ]
Post subject:	Re: The Women's Suffrage Movement
blinks in surprise then bows in appreciation Thank you very much!

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Author:	Lady Elanor [ June 17th, 2014, 10:05 am ]
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Charlotte Jane wrote: If people actually followed God's plan for marriage the way he wanted us to, then there wouldn't be problems. Yes, the woman is supposed to submit to her husband, but at the same time, she is his equal-a half of him. For him to degrade her are leave her in the position to only provide him pleasure when he wishes it is about as useful as only using one half of your body. The wife is there for support, for advice, for love-she is his partner. The husband is her protector. Genesis 2, and probably in Ephesians 5. And there is no reason for a married-or unmarried-woman to not be able to run a business. Look at the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31. Look at Lydia in Acts. Both of these women often handled the business, and handled it well. The habit of relegating the women to simply a pretty face probably comes from the 'submit to your husbands' verse, and ancient cultures. The husband is the head, and the wife is the body. If the head doesn't let the body do anything, they won't really go anywhere. Absolutely love and agree with every word you said here!

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