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| Author: | Gwendolyn [ January 17th, 2014, 6:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Soul vs. Spirit |
So if I'm understanding this process correctly, you begin mapping a character with the four areas: body, mind, soul, spirit. Body is really self-explanatory, but mind is a little more vague, and I plainly just don't see the difference between soul and spirit. Anyone know a good way to distinguish them? |
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| Author: | BushMaid [ January 17th, 2014, 7:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soul vs. Spirit |
I often define soul as your personality, spirit as character. |
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| Author: | Neil of Erk [ January 17th, 2014, 11:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soul vs. Spirit |
Gwendolyn wrote: So if I'm understanding this process correctly, you begin mapping a character with the four areas: body, mind, soul, spirit. Body is really self-explanatory, but mind is a little more vague, and I plainly just don't see the difference between soul and spirit. Anyone know a good way to distinguish them? Well, if I remember Jay's explanation correctly, the soul is, you know, your soul, the spiritual you that goes on to heaven or hell, that kind of thing. Spirit has more to do with "human spirit", character, being made in God's Image, etc. |
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| Author: | Gwendolyn [ January 18th, 2014, 1:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soul vs. Spirit |
So..... soul is the stuff you're born with, and spirit is the stuff that grows/changes through your life/circumstances? |
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| Author: | Lady Heather [ January 18th, 2014, 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soul vs. Spirit |
Yes it is Gwendolyn. Everybody is born with a soul, a spirit is what's within you that makes you the person you are, the follower or believer that you are in the Lord  You have the option of a spirit of God or Spirit of the enemy, does that make sense? You choose who you serve and then you grow in that.(I don't mean You personally I mean you in general).  I hope that doesn't confuse you.
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| Author: | Mistress Kidh [ January 19th, 2014, 2:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soul vs. Spirit |
Gwendolyn wrote: So if I'm understanding this process correctly, you begin mapping a character with the four areas: body, mind, soul, spirit. Body is really self-explanatory, but mind is a little more vague, and I plainly just don't see the difference between soul and spirit. Anyone know a good way to distinguish them? You begin mapping a character with.... whatever you want to map. XD I'm one of the people that actually came up with Xmapping in the beginning, and I almost never go by the 'body mind soul spirit' structure. If you don't understand it or don't want to use it, you can use anything else you like, whatever it is that gets across what you are trying to get across. I would try and help you out with defining soul and spirit, but so far as I've seen most people just use their own perception of it, and I personally don't have a definite perception.  However when it comes to 'mind', either that represents the intellect, knowledge, thought processes, etcetera of the person, or it represents all of that, and parts of what other people might classify under either soul or spirit, or all of the above and everything that other people might classify under soul or spirit. The last way is the way I usually use it. I have a difficult time separating what I feel is my 'personality' from what I feel is my 'intellect' from what I feel is my... 'spiritual structure', so I just define 'mind' as 'all of that stuff in there'. * grins *
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| Author: | Gwendolyn [ January 19th, 2014, 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soul vs. Spirit |
haha, ok, good to know Thanks!
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| Author: | Seer of Endor [ January 31st, 2014, 8:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soul vs. Spirit |
Juliet is right! You don't have to use that system, that's just the one that most people are familiar with. Melody Kondrael posed the Spirit/Soul question in this thread a couple of years ago. This was the response that Rwebhu's brother Sir Emeth Mimetes (aka the guy who introduced Essence Mapping to HW... and to an extent to the world) gave her. Sir Emeth Mimetes wrote: There are tons of different 'inner parts' to us. People have tried to define them in a dizzying array of often contradictory ways. It is a hard task. In a pm I asked how to apply this to essence mapping and his advice was that since there are so many confusing delineations of the "inner parts," we should use the ones that best suit the needs of your essence map. There are also the Reins (in Hebrew it is the same word as 'kidneys'): which is more or less the throne of your decisions: your axioms and your assumptions. There is your Heart: your meditator, the treasure where you store up good and bad things, where you draw from to provide strength in your actions. There is your Brain: your physical thinker, when you memorize Scripture, you are not hiding it in your heart (you need to meditate on it to do that), you are storing it in your Brain. This is good, and very important, but not the same as meditating. There is your Persona, or Personality: your makeup of emotional, physical, and mental (brain) preferences. The difference between your Soul and Spirit is hard to define, because each has multiple meanings and uses, some of which overlap. But there is your Nephesh life: you are alive. Animals have this too. There is your individual Spirit: which goes to heaven and receives a glorified Body. There are also terms which refer to two or more of these working in combination., such as your Will: the combination of your Heart and Reins. That is the best I can do off the top of my head. On a more theological level, there are basically two schools of thought when it comes to the question of what we're made of. There's the dichotomous view which divides us into body and soul/spirit/mind. It kind of bundles together all the non-biological parts of us into one. Then there's the trichotomous view, which says we're made up of body, soul, and spirit. Generally in that view, the soul is equated with the mind and the spirit is the spiritual part of us. The soul is considered the center of thinking/reasoning (cognition), feelings/emotions, and decisions/willpower (volition). And the spirit is the part of us which senses spiritual realities (aka God and his Spirit). At least, I'm pretty sure that's the typical trichotomous view. It's the one I'm most familiar with. But again, as Jay and Juliet have both said, use whatever you like and divide it up however works best for you. I think the reason the 4-part system was so popular is because in the beginning people learned Essence Mapping by basing their maps of the ones others had made and someone way back at the start used the 4-part system 
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| Author: | Gwendolyn [ January 31st, 2014, 10:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soul vs. Spirit |
Thanks! A lot to chew on there, and not just for essence mapping! |
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| Author: | Mistress Kidh [ February 1st, 2014, 2:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soul vs. Spirit |
Fairfeet the Seer wrote: But again, as Jay and Juliet have both said, use whatever you like and divide it up however works best for you. I think the reason the 4-part system was so popular is because in the beginning people learned Essence Mapping by basing their maps of the ones others had made and someone way back at the start used the 4-part system Yeah, something like that. I think it might have been Jay....
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| Author: | Seer of Endor [ February 2nd, 2014, 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Soul vs. Spirit |
Mistress Rwebhu Kidh wrote: Yeah, something like that. I think so too, I'm just too lazy dig through the archives and figure it out for certain I think it might have been Jay....
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