I put The Beginning at the end, but only because I'm such a hopeless romantic.
I have yet to decide whether it will actually stay, though.
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| Author: | Constable Jaynin Mimetes [ August 6th, 2012, 2:10 am ] |
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Do you write those famous words at the end of your masterpieces? Do you use some of the lesser known forms such as as "Fini" or "Finis"? Why or why not? |
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| Author: | The Bard [ August 6th, 2012, 12:04 pm ] |
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I always use "The End" simply because that's what I think goes at the end of a book and if you don't put it there it seems like you're trying for a sequel. Also I never use any of the other forms as they are too "fancy" for my style of stories and (a more minor reason) it seems people that think they're clever always use them. |
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| Author: | Skathi [ August 8th, 2012, 5:58 am ] |
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Depends on the novel I'm writing, the style, the subject and the genre. In a historical fiction novel I would match the conclusion with the culture, or not have a finishing phrase at all. In fantasy, I'd fluctuate between 'fini', 'finis' and 'the end', matching the phrase to the protagonist. For a protagonist well-versed in many cultures, sophisticated and accomplished, I'd end with one of the more fancy terms. For a more down to earth protagonist I'd simply end with 'the end'. I'll also vary the font of those famous closing words with the protagonist as well. |
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| Author: | Varon [ August 9th, 2012, 4:39 pm ] |
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I do on my first drafts, simply so I know that I'm finished. |
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| Author: | Emilyn [ August 9th, 2012, 4:48 pm ] |
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If it's like the first book of a series, I put TO BE CONTINUED.... or something along the lines of that. I think I'd only put FIN at the end of a book if the setting of the book is in France or Paris or has something to do with France (maybe if they were cooks of a french/Italian restaurant that doesn't have to be in France). If it's just one book by itself I'd put just THE END or END. |
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| Author: | Lady Eruwaedhiel [ August 9th, 2012, 5:30 pm ] |
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I put The Beginning at the end, but only because I'm such a hopeless romantic. I have yet to decide whether it will actually stay, though.
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| Author: | Constable Jaynin Mimetes [ August 9th, 2012, 10:49 pm ] |
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I would like to be all smart and educated and ooh and aaah at that, but I think I'd prefer to be enlightened and ask you to expound, because while I understand why you would put "The Beginning" at the end in an abstract sense, I would love to hear you elaborate. 
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| Author: | Lady Eruwaedhiel [ August 11th, 2012, 1:23 pm ] |
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Well, it didn't have so much to do with the story itself, since I may actually write a prequel. It was just ... I felt like it was the beginning of a lot of things - you know, my first novel, my first word count over 10,000, all that rubbish. No big philosophical reasons here.
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| Author: | Leandra Falconwing [ August 13th, 2012, 9:45 pm ] |
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I guess I tend to put "The End" when I finish a long story just because it makes me feel like I accomplished something. I honestly don't think I'd care much whether or not those words stay in the book if/when it's published. I haven't ever considered using "fin" or "finis," though maybe I should. I kind of like "Fin." I also like the idea of "The Beginning," because I appreciate the implication that the characters have the rest of their lives ahead of them, that whether or not I read anything else about them, they continue to exist in a certain way and have adventures, and that the book wasn't the sum total of their existence. I dunno, maybe that's just me being weird. 
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| Author: | Willow Wenial Mimetes [ August 15th, 2012, 10:02 am ] |
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*agrees w/Lea* I love seeing "the beginning" at the end of a well-written book. Because I've come to love the book and I'm always a little sad that it's over, so having "the beginning" at the end, kinda helps with that.  I say "well-written" though, because if there is anything I do NOT want to see at the end of a bad book, it's "this is just the beginning". *groan*I would probably never use it in my stories though just cause I'm not good enough to pull it off! Plus, most of my characters die...so having "the beginning" wouldn't make a lot of sense since...well, they're dead, and won't be doing much anymore.  Actually...maybe a good way to end my stories would be, "We're done now." Or, "Move along, nothing more to see here." *chuckles* |
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| Author: | RunningWolf [ August 15th, 2012, 1:23 pm ] |
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Willow Wenial Mimetes wrote: We're done now. I like that one. ^ 
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| Author: | PrincessoftheKing [ August 16th, 2012, 7:54 pm ] |
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I've never even considered using anything but "The End". But I agree with Lea... I could care less whether or not that's in the published version; it just gives me a sense of accomplishment to be able to write that. Willow Wenial Mimetes wrote: Actually...maybe a good way to end my stories would be, "We're done now." Or, "Move along, nothing more to see here." *chuckles*
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| Author: | Mistress Kidh [ August 17th, 2012, 10:27 am ] |
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I never even thought of writing 'the end' at the end of my novels. * thoughtful * They never really ended. The last words of my last one were "Come on!" The book may have ended, but the people didn't. |
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| Author: | Xander of Locksley [ August 20th, 2012, 11:55 am ] |
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In a novel I wrote last year, my characters spent the majority of the novel planning and producing a short film. While I usually end my books with "The End," for this movie-themed book I ended with "Fade to Black," which is a way to signify the end of a scene in a movie script. |
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| Author: | Constable Jaynin Mimetes [ August 20th, 2012, 4:59 pm ] |
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Oh, that's clever. I like that. Does anyone have any opinions on the merits of "The End" over nothing at the end of any given book? |
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| Author: | PrincessoftheKing [ August 20th, 2012, 5:03 pm ] |
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I really like that too, Xander!
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| Author: | The Bard [ August 20th, 2012, 6:00 pm ] |
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Quote: Does anyone have any opinions on the merits of "The End" over nothing at the end of any given book? In my mind when people put "The End" it seems like they aren't trying for a sequel which I always like. |
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| Author: | Amy [ August 28th, 2012, 1:00 pm ] |
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I only seem to write short stories at this point, but I don't like ending them with "The End." It's generally my goal to finish off my stories with some closing line that has an end-ish feel to it, but is thought-provoking at the same, as if, something for the reader to specifically carry away with them. To end with "The End" feels like it cuts this off, in a way. Not sure if that makes sense. I can attempt a better explanation if I leave you confused. |
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| Author: | RunningWolf [ August 28th, 2012, 2:39 pm ] |
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Lady Nicole Mimetes wrote: I only seem to write short stories at this point, but I don't like ending them with "The End." It's generally my goal to finish off my stories with some closing line that has an end-ish feel to it, but is thought-provoking at the same, as if, something for the reader to specifically carry away with them. To end with "The End" feels like it cuts this off, in a way. Not sure if that makes sense. I can attempt a better explanation if I leave you confused. I think I know what you mean, Nicole. I do the same thing. 
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| Author: | Arien [ August 28th, 2012, 6:30 pm ] |
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I don't think I'd ever put 'The End' at the end of anything I write. I'm not sure I really see the point in it, since it's quite clearly the end, anyway, but I do at least sort of understand people putting it there. Although I think most the books I read don't have a 'The End', but maybe I just don't pay any attention to it. |
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| Author: | Aragorn [ August 28th, 2012, 6:43 pm ] |
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Arien Mimetes wrote: I think most the books I read don't have a 'The End', but maybe I just don't pay any attention to it. I don't think it's used much anymore. |
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| Author: | Lord Tarin [ August 28th, 2012, 9:54 pm ] |
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I have never written a stand-alone novel, so I don't end my books with "The End" unless it's actually the last in the series. Personally, I'm a fan of concluding with The End. Besides giving a sense of finality, it's the author's way of telling you that the magnificent journey you have been on is finished, sort of like when you come home from a vacation and it's back to reality. I hadn't considered using anything else, but some of those suggestions are neat. |
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| Author: | Amy [ August 29th, 2012, 10:26 am ] |
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I certainly understand your point, Tarin! Though, it also happens to be exactly the reason I don't use "The End" at the end of my writing. I don't exactly want my stories to have that sense of finality and finished-ness. Somehow, I hope that point or reason behind the story continues into reality and doesn't feel like the end of the journey...Anyways, that's just me. I think it's cool when people use "The End", too. |
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| Author: | kingjon [ September 6th, 2012, 6:54 pm ] |
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Xander of Locksley wrote: In a novel I wrote last year, my characters spent the majority of the novel planning and producing a short film. While I usually end my books with "The End," for this movie-themed book I ended with "Fade to Black," which is a way to signify the end of a scene in a movie script. Similarly, H. Beam Piper's Four Day Planet, narrated by a "cub reporter," ends with a "handwritten" "-30-". |
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| Author: | Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes [ September 27th, 2012, 9:48 am ] |
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I like interesting variations: "We're done now" "-30-" "Fade to Black" Some ideas I thought of: There it is What would You do? This will not be Continued (Though that last one would probably be rather cruel to people who do not like to see a good book end.) What about the signature of the author, like at the end of a signed letter? FIN (probably pronounced "feen") is at the end of the Spanish Bible, and FINIS at the end of the 1611 King James Version. |
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| Author: | kingjon [ September 27th, 2012, 1:08 pm ] |
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Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes wrote: What about the signature of the author, like at the end of a signed letter? My novelette that's (until I think of a better title) still titled "A Murder, a Mystery, and a Marriage" (written for an English assignment after reading the then-recently-discovered Mark Twain story of the same name) ended with the signature of the narrator. (The only requirements, other than a maximum length, were that I include the elements of a murder, a mystery, and a wedding, so I tried to make the identity of the narrator a slowly-hinted-at mystery.) Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes wrote: FIN (probably pronounced "feen") is at the end of the Spanish Bible, and FINIS at the end of the 1611 King James Version. I've seen both of those used at the end of fan-fiction stories. |
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| Author: | Lord Tarin [ September 27th, 2012, 6:26 pm ] |
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Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes wrote: I like interesting variations: "We're done now" "-30-" "Fade to Black" Some ideas I thought of: There it is What would You do? This will not be Continued (Though that last one would probably be rather cruel to people who do not like to see a good book end.) What about the signature of the author, like at the end of a signed letter? FIN (probably pronounced "feen") is at the end of the Spanish Bible, and FINIS at the end of the 1611 King James Version. Now THERE are some cool ideas.  I like the idea of an author signature, but my favorite one was the first: "We're done now."
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| Author: | Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes [ October 1st, 2012, 8:14 am ] |
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Another interesting way would be to have a story like the one in the Chamber of Mazarbul ("They are coming...") and have it end in the middle with a dried spray of blood on the page. |
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| Author: | Leandra Falconwing [ October 6th, 2012, 9:48 am ] |
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Interesting, yes, but I like happy endings too much to want to try that one.
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| Author: | Aratrea [ October 6th, 2012, 10:35 am ] |
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Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes wrote: Another interesting way would be to have a story like the one in the Chamber of Mazarbul ("They are coming...") and have it end in the middle with a dried spray of blood on the page. That story better have a sequel to end that way... I will sometimes end my short stories with 'finis' in the first draft, but they always seem to vanish when I revise it... I haven't ended any of my longer novels with any 'end word' though... |
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