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Author:  SeyatassDragonDaughter [ November 21st, 2011, 10:34 am ]
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I have problems writing guys. Sometimes I think of them as emotionless stone walls. Other times I think of them as big, cuddly softies. Get predicament? I'm female so I've never been inside a guy's mind. And when I write from a guy's point of view I become the guy... or at least I'm s'pose to. It's kinda creepy being inside a guy's head, even when I created him. I am going to write some stuff from this guy named Jaque's point of view, and I have no clue what I - I have become him - am s'pose to think, want, feel, like, and hate. What are my weaknesses? What are things that disgust me? What are things that give me infinite comfort? Any help?
Author:  Airianna Valenshia [ November 21st, 2011, 7:03 pm ]
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*Grins * Oh you should read the "How to Write Men" thread. Lots of good advice in there. :D
Author:  Varon [ November 22nd, 2011, 2:15 pm ]
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It depends a lot on society and what society says men should be like.

In the coming of age class my church does, one of the classes was about what deep question has. For men, it's this question.

Am I strong enough? Am I up to the task?
Author:  Ana Mimetes [ December 16th, 2011, 1:32 pm ]
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I think the most important thing to remember is that guys are humans too. (I know weird thought o.O )
We all have the same emotions we just express them in different ways. You can write a guy that is a brick wall (there are some of those out there)...or you can write one that's crying every two minutes (there are those types too).
Author:  Elly [ December 16th, 2011, 4:08 pm ]
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Ana wrote:
I think the most important thing to remember is that guys are humans too. (I know weird thought o.O )

That made me smile, even though I'm not feeling good. Thank you, sweet Ana. :D Ani did an article about guys being humans on her family's blog. That's worth checking out, too.
Author:  Cadenza [ December 16th, 2011, 5:43 pm ]
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I think one thing to remember about guys is their pride. (Now I'm not trying to accuse the guys; don't get me started on girls' weaknesses!)

They're proud of their physical or intelligent strength (or embarrassed by their lack of it). That's why guys are bigger dare devils than girls.

Now I'm not trying to generalize here, but guys usually have greater dignity than some girls. I mean, to them, an insult isn't just something to cry over, its something to revenge. You'd better apologize for that, or else!

And then there is that whole thing about girl's minds being like spaghetti, and guys' like waffles, an analogy I dislike because I think it is disrespectful of both genders. Despite that, it can be helpful.

Anyway, there's my two cents. I may think of something else later!
Author:  Kelcin [ December 16th, 2011, 5:52 pm ]
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And I think we men, generally speaking, are bad multitaskers.
We're single thought thinkers, but we go at what we're thinking about with some enthusiasm. Or maybe being in Percy Jackson's head has made me think we are all like that ;P
Author:  Varon [ December 16th, 2011, 7:09 pm ]
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Revenge it? Probably. Or just laugh it off.
Author:  Cadenza [ December 17th, 2011, 8:47 pm ]
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True. Depending on the guy, for sure.
Author:  SeyatassDragonDaughter [ December 19th, 2011, 2:12 pm ]
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Wow, thanks for the info guys! Really is gonna help :rofl:
Author:  Sam Starrett [ April 12th, 2012, 12:51 am ]
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Varon Netzah Mimetes wrote:
Revenge it? Probably. Or just laugh it off.


As Phylis said, depending on the guy. But also depending on the source of the insult, I think. And who witnessed it. If a stranger humiliates you in front of your girlfriend, it's not the same as a joke at your expense among the guys.
Author:  SeyatassDragonDaughter [ April 12th, 2012, 9:41 am ]
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It is so funny, :rofl: , lately, I have been noticing so many differences between men and women. For one, all my guy friends - online and off - tend to make jokes out of circumstances that girls tend to take more seriously. Especially in real life. My friend Johnny will fake a injury and I will actually get all worried and then all of a sudden he bursts out laughing. I wanna smack him. He thinks it is hilarious. Funny, isn't it? Well, I suppose not all boys do that as much as Johnny... :roll:

And then, of course, I found that girls tend to take little things that people do and blow it up to form, what they think is, that person's opinion of them. :rofl:

I have a feeling guys don't do that as much... am I wrong?
Author:  Varon [ April 12th, 2012, 9:55 am ]
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Right, I don't think guys make a huge thing about how people think of them. Not in public, at least.

Samstarrett wrote:
Varon Netzah Mimetes wrote:
Revenge it? Probably. Or just laugh it off.


As Phylis said, depending on the guy. But also depending on the source of the insult, I think. And who witnessed it. If a stranger humiliates you in front of your girlfriend, it's not the same as a joke at your expense among the guys.


Excellent point. I hadn't thought of that.
Author:  SeyatassDragonDaughter [ April 12th, 2012, 12:51 pm ]
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If you are a boy, this could either come as funny or silly to you.

The frustrating thing about men and boys is that it is SOOOO hard to tell what they are thinking!!
Author:  Sam Starrett [ April 12th, 2012, 1:03 pm ]
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Viarrieinmr Mimetes wrote:
If you are a boy, this could either come as funny or silly to you.

The frustrating thing about men and boys is that it is SOOOO hard to tell what they are thinking!!


:rofl: This from the sex famous for "if you don't know, I'm certainly not going to tell you!"?
Author:  Sam Starrett [ April 12th, 2012, 3:14 pm ]
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Let me add something here, that I think you should understand as a girl writing guys, and that I think girls tend not to understand, at least not intuitively.

You are both more and less important than you may think.

Let me explain what I mean. First of all, you (girls) are more important than you may think. To illustrate this, I will tell a story, with enough facts changed that no one can be identified. The crux of the story, however, is entirely true, upon my honour.

A young man, who shall be called Bob, was engaged in a sparring match in a martial art. He went up against an opponent who shall be called Jim. Now Bob may or may not have been better than Jim. That's largely unimportant, and I honestly don't know the answer.

The point is that there was a very pretty girl sitting on the sideline, who shall be called Sarah (because in reality neither I nor Bob has ever known a Sarah). She sat on Bob's side of the ring. Immediately before the match, Bob turned around and looked at Sarah. She smiled back at him, a big, beautiful smile. The referee said "Seijak!" (begin) and Bob tore Jim apart. It was a landslide. I don't think Jim scored a single point. He never had a chance, because Bob had a serious motivation. He was fighting for Sarah. I don't think Sarah knew what the fact that she came and watched Bob's fight, sat in his corner, and smiled at him meant to Bob. Even Bob's mom thought Sarah was "distracting" him. You're more important than you may think.

Now here's an example of how you're less important than you may think.

Guys look at girls. This is a fact. Additionally, I have it on good authority that girls like it. Some girls, moreover, dress (or more precisely, don't dress) in a way that they think will get more guys to look at them. Now, I don't want to turn this into a discussion about female modesty. That's beside the point. The point I'm going to make is best expressed in the words of theologian Douglas Wilson, who wrote:

But here it is. We are a fallen race, and most of us aren't that cute. This has implications for how we interact with each other. My wife tells me that women know when they are being "checked out," and it has to be acknowledged that many men are not nearly as surreptitious as they think they are. But it must also be said that many of these women misunderstand the nature of the check out. The most striking fact about the majority of women who dress immodestly (or foolishly) is the clear fact (at least clear to everybody now) that they cannot really afford to do so. For example, when a Christian woman goes way too tight for church, the resultant glances from some of the men (that she does notice, awarding the men hypocrite points as she goes) are, in most instances, not what she thinks. One man is thinking, "Yikes, where's my six-year-old?" Another man is remembering that memorable phrase from Wodehouse -- "a snake with hips." Yet another is wondering how fabric engineers manage to make it that strong, and is proud of America's continued technological advantages. Twenty percent of the men do struggle with lust, but it is a lust excited by the apparent availability and sexual impudence, and not because Helen of Troy came through the second service today.

Thus, as he writes, men lust after women, but not as much as women may think, and when they do, it's not necessarily because they're struck by how beautiful she is; you are less important than you may think.

Admittedly, this is very specific to how guys think about girls, and not more general advice on writing guys in general. But it may help you, or someone else, at some point. I hope so. *shrugs*
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