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Author:  Aragorn [ October 22nd, 2011, 4:10 am ]
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What if you discovered that a name you made up and thought was original wasn’t so original? Perhaps you discover that the name of one of your kingdoms is also the name of a city in Europe. Perhaps you discover your hero’s name is also the name of the hero of a fantasy series that comes out several years after you started writing yours. Or, as in my case, I was talking to another fantasy writer and we discovered that we had both named one of our monsters the same made-up name. While it didn’t bother me, since our monsters were vastly different both in description and their role in the story, it did make me think about how other such strange coincidences must have happened and will happen to other writers under various circumstances.

Have you ever discovered that a name you made up and thought was original wasn’t so original? How did that make you feel? What would you do in such a situation? Would you feel a need to change the name, or would you leave it as it is?

Author:  Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ October 22nd, 2011, 7:23 am ]
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I discovered someone on HW (I don't think they're active anymore), whose world was named Enderion. He spelled it differently, but pronounced it the same.

I guess I just said "hey, that's cool" and didn't make any plans to change mine :D

eru

Author:  Bethany Faith [ October 22nd, 2011, 7:54 am ]
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I know a few HWers have some MCs named "Anastasia" like the MC in my novel, but it never quite bothered me... I always found it cool. :D There are three characters with the same name, but entirely different life stories and personalities! :cool:

Author:  Lady Elanor [ October 22nd, 2011, 10:55 am ]
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I find it really hard to change a name no matter what after I have named them, because to me that's what they are. I can't imagine them as anything else, and I can never settle with anything else if I have settled on the original name.

Author:  Aragorn [ October 23rd, 2011, 4:59 pm ]
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eruheran wrote:
I discovered someone on HW (I don't think they're active anymore), whose world was named Enderion. He spelled it differently, but pronounced it the same.

I guess I just said "hey, that's cool" and didn't make any plans to change mine :D

That's probably the best attitude to take in general. :D

Bethany Faith wrote:
I know a few HWers have some MCs named "Anastasia" like the MC in my novel, but it never quite bothered me... I always found it cool. :D There are three characters with the same name, but entirely different life stories and personalities! :cool:

It's interesting to see how different someone or something with the same name can be. :book:

Lady Elanor wrote:
I find it really hard to change a name no matter what after I have named them, because to me that's what they are. I can't imagine them as anything else, and I can never settle with anything else if I have settled on the original name.

In some or many cases, changing the name would be hard. :P

Author:  RedWing the Purple [ October 24th, 2011, 2:01 pm ]
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I found out that "Breyanna", "Xennon," and "Andreya" were real names. :P Also, "Thalian" is the name of a hall/library somewhere...I don't remember.

I didn't make any plans of changing them, though. :D

And I found out that both you and I have a "Verin" race. ;)

Author:  Aragorn [ October 24th, 2011, 4:19 pm ]
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RedWing the Purple wrote:
And I found out that both you and I have a "Verin" race. ;)

Or would it be species? But, yes, we do. ;)

Author:  J. Grace Pennington [ October 26th, 2011, 1:07 pm ]
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Huh... I wrote a long post awhile back on this thread and I just realized it never posted. :P Strange. But I don't remember what I said exactly...

Author:  Suiauthon Mimetes [ October 26th, 2011, 11:57 pm ]
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That's not nice of HW. :P

Author:  Aragorn [ October 27th, 2011, 12:32 am ]
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I know you wrote a reply on HWSF. :)

Author:  J. Grace Pennington [ October 27th, 2011, 9:42 am ]
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Jonathan Garner wrote:
I know you wrote a reply on HWSF. :)

Oh. :blush: That would be it then. I get confused with duplicate topics. :roll: Carry on. :D

Author:  Aragorn [ February 20th, 2012, 9:12 am ]
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That's fine. :D You gave a good reply on HWSF. ;)

Author:  Lady Elanor [ February 20th, 2012, 9:16 am ]
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All you have to do is also re post it here, as well. :cool:

Author:  Lady Vilisse Mimetes [ February 20th, 2012, 9:37 am ]
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I consistently find that my invented names are actual last names (Like, Zarack). Ashta is actually the name of a town somewhere. It's actually where I got the idea for the Wolves of Ashta (which are an actual animal). The wolves of Ashta were man-eating wolves that hunted near and in Ashta and were eventually killed. Totally intrigued by the connection my made-up name had to real life, I decided to use the name Wolves of Ashta for my own race :D

Author:  AzlynRose [ March 2nd, 2012, 8:52 pm ]
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I read this thread and went to go google the name for my world, Amerouk.

Then I was like 'Oi! There's another Amerouk out there!"

It's a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny town or something in Chad, Africa. If you zoom in as far as it will let you, it's still impossible to see anything resembling a settlement. :rofl:

The other results for Amerouk are HW ones for the threads I created for Amerouk, which is neat.

Google results for the name of my MC, Anria, are someone who works for wikipedia, a fanfiction writer, and some other stuff.

It's kinda cool to go googling your own names and see what comes up.

Author:  Lady Elanor [ March 3rd, 2012, 8:04 am ]
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AzlynRose wrote:
I read this thread and went to go google the name for my world, Amerouk.

Then I was like 'Oi! There's another Amerouk out there!"

It's a tiny tiny tiny tiny tiny town or something in Chad, Africa. If you zoom in as far as it will let you, it's still impossible to see anything resembling a settlement. :rofl:

The other results for Amerouk are HW ones for the threads I created for Amerouk, which is neat.

Google results for the name of my MC, Anria, are someone who works for wikipedia, a fanfiction writer, and some other stuff.

It's kinda cool to go googling your own names and see what comes up.


I think it's actually really neat that you 'make up' a name, and find out it's actually a real one. :cool:

Author:  Aemi [ September 26th, 2012, 1:41 pm ]
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I well remember the struggle of naming my main character. As I developed her, I decided that her name ought to start with an "M", and it needed to sound slightly unusual and fantasy-ish, while not being difficult to pronounce.
I tried baby name websites, online lists of ancient Greek names, Google Translate, but nothing seemed quite right. Then, one night, I was thinking hard about it, rearranging letters and syllables, and I thought of a name! A name I made up myself. Her name was Mahlia.
I loved it. It was perfect. And, best of all, it was unique. I made it up, so there was no way any other person or character could ever have the same name.

Or so I thought.

About a year later, while sitting in a theater waiting for a movie to start, I saw a trailer for a film, and a girl in it was called---you guessed it---Mahlia.

When I got home, I Googled that name, and turns out it is an actual---albeit unusual---name. Even for a fictional character or two. Go figure.

So, my question is: Have you ever made up a name, only to find it is a name already? Please share!

Author:  Lord Tarin [ September 26th, 2012, 11:16 pm ]
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*reads last line and utters wry laugh*

Fancy that, someone who's gone through the same experience I have. :0 I can't recall any fantasy names that I've found to real names, but more than once I've made up a name only to come across it in another novel. :P Sometimes I even subconsciously use a name I've heard before, as in the time I came up with a great location name only to discover it in LOTR and realize that yes, I had heard it somewhere before. :roll: :'(

Author:  Airianna Valenshia [ September 27th, 2012, 7:16 am ]
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I have, yes. :P Airianna is a prime example. Now, the actual name is spelled Airiana *has not seen spelled with a double n before*, but I was very upset. I had poured so much time into making the name Airianna.... it is a very obscure name, though, not used in general. Most people haven't heard it before, so I suffice myself with that.

Author:  RunningWolf [ September 27th, 2012, 10:53 am ]
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I usually go in google and search "define: ___" with all my made up names...and oftentimes see that it has been used in Warhammer, or D&D or something like that. o.O :P

Author:  Ophelia MirZA Mimetes [ September 27th, 2012, 12:57 pm ]
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Yes I have. :P When I was younger I named one of my dragons after my dad, Alan. The dragon's name is Alana, and since then I've seen that name in two books. . . I actually saw it for the second time yesterday. o.O

I've also found out that all but one of my other dragons' names turn up on Google as real names/words. Oh well, :roll: it happens.

Author:  kingjon [ September 27th, 2012, 1:18 pm ]
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Ophelia MirZA Mimetes wrote:
Yes I have. :P When I was younger I named one of my dragons after my dad, Alan. The dragon's name is Alana, and since then I've seen that name in two books. . . I actually saw it for the second time yesterday. o.O

I don't think I've ever seen "Alana" with only one N before ... but I've seen it before with two Ns (Alanna).

Author:  Celestria [ September 27th, 2012, 2:26 pm ]
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I have too. Want to take a wild stab in the dark as to what name? Yup, Celestria! Turns out it was a medieval name all along. Drats! I'm a couple hundred years too late! :roll:

Author:  The Wolverminion [ September 27th, 2012, 4:08 pm ]
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Made up Dennik. Turns out it's a Slovakian newspaper or something.

Named a sea monster Tor before learning that tor is an old word for a high, rocky hill, or a prominent pile of rocks on top of a hill.

I've had several more, but those are the main ones I remember.

Author:  Aris Hunter [ September 27th, 2012, 4:24 pm ]
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At least once. I thought there were more, but they've slipped my mind. :roll:

Gribble: Funky little stick creature I made. Found out it can be a person's last name, too. -_-

Author:  Lord Tarin [ September 27th, 2012, 10:42 pm ]
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Airianna Mimetes wrote:
I have, yes. :P Airianna is a prime example. Now, the actual name is spelled Airiana *has not seen spelled with a double n before*, but I was very upset. I had poured so much time into making the name Airianna.... it is a very obscure name, though, not used in general. Most people haven't heard it before, so I suffice myself with that.

I made up a very similar name: Arienne.

But I think there's bound to be overlap in names, especially between novels of the same genre. If you think of all the thousands of books published and the millions of names created, it's sorta surprising that we don't run across already used names more often.

Or maybe they're out there and we just don't know it.

...ignorance is bliss. :cool: ^_^

Author:  Aemi [ September 28th, 2012, 12:26 am ]
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Thanks for sharing, y'all. :)

Author:  Aragorn [ September 28th, 2012, 1:03 am ]
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I once had it happen with a made-up name for a creature, and that inspired a similar thread: viewtopic.php?f=49&t=4735

Author:  Aemi [ September 28th, 2012, 1:24 pm ]
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A very similar thread...

Author:  Aragorn [ September 28th, 2012, 10:11 pm ]
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Do you mind if I merge them?

Author:  Aemi [ September 29th, 2012, 11:10 am ]
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Go ahead. :)

Author:  The Maiden in Blue [ September 29th, 2012, 11:58 am ]
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Hmm... I don't usually check to see if my names are real or not. :blush: But once my sister named a fairy, "Esmeralda" only to later find out that, that name already existed. Then because of this thread I quickly typed in the name of a world I created into google, and found out that it as well has already been used. :roll:

Author:  Aris Hunter [ September 29th, 2012, 12:01 pm ]
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I remember another one: I had this really cool old guy character, whose name was going to be Edain (because I loved how cool I could spell his name, especially the E, on paper) But then I read the Children of Hurin (Tolkien), I believe, I found that same name. Sucked all the joy out of that character so fast...

Author:  Aemi [ September 29th, 2012, 12:08 pm ]
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Was it a similar character to yours, or totally different?

Author:  RunningWolf [ September 29th, 2012, 12:24 pm ]
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Vadra, the name of my story-world, is a last name. o.O

Author:  Lady Elanor [ September 29th, 2012, 2:29 pm ]
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I'd never heard of the name Airianna before, Airi. Although I watched an episode of NCIS recently and the guy in it was called Airi.

I haven't had this happen to me yet; but I made all the names of things in my world up, and I'm sure someone's used some of them, somewhere at some time. :D

Author:  Aragorn [ September 29th, 2012, 8:18 pm ]
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Aemi Kurisuchan wrote:
Go ahead. :)

The topics are now merged. :)

Author:  Lady Eruwaedhiel [ September 30th, 2012, 12:31 pm ]
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Klista, my main and very creepy villain, is a small town in Sweden, apparently. :rofl:

Iri is a biblical name, a grandson of Benjamin. Mentioned once in the entire Bible in 1Chronicles 7:7. I probably saw it, thought it was cool, wrote it down, completely forgot it was Biblical, and then used it. But it means "fire" or "light" which is kind of cool.

Fairivel is the name I'm proudest of, but come to find out, Jessica Day George's world is called Feravel. :evil: I'm going to stick with mine anyway, and I don't care who thinks I stole it. I came up with it at 3 in the morning and I am keeping it.

I stole Arionwyn from mom's baby name list. The name was Arianwyn, but I changed it. :dieshappy:

Author:  kingjon [ September 30th, 2012, 12:47 pm ]
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I once came up with two names, thought they were utterly original, then found out that they came from a couple of books I'd read years before---one was the heroine of one of them, the other was the horse the male lead of the other book rode. (Sigh. :))

Author:  Aemi [ October 2nd, 2012, 9:59 pm ]
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It seems the human brain is capable of learning something, telling your conscious mind that the fact is completely forgotten, and then pulling it out later, making you think you made it up.

I don't see how that could have happened with me, though! There is no way I saw that name before I came up with it.

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