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| Author: | Aeleknight [ July 6th, 2011, 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Ethos/Pathos/Logos |
Just in case you don't know what it is in a nutshell: Ethos: Ethical appeal Pathos: Emotional appeal Logos: Logical appeal Which of the Ethos/Pathos/Logos do you think your story/stories most entail? Do you think you mostly use emotion to pull the reader into your story? Do you think you mostly use the logic and the details of your world to pull the reader in making them believe in the world and making them feel they are a part of it? Do you think you use Ethical appeal, using trustworthy and good characters that make the reader want to find out more about what they have to say? |
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| Author: | Seer of Endor [ July 6th, 2011, 2:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ethos/Pathos/Logos |
Moved to the Forge. |
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| Author: | Bethany Faith [ July 8th, 2011, 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ethos/Pathos/Logos |
I think I mainly use emotions to pull my readers into the story, since that is what drags me into a book not so much facts or wise characters. The emotional impact of a scene or character's history will probably affect me more than...say, a map of the world said characters live in. Which... Probably would explain why almost all of my characters have either depressing pasts or challenging futures. 
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| Author: | Kalisia Silverwing [ July 8th, 2011, 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ethos/Pathos/Logos |
I've never really thought about which method I use before. Looking back on some of the stuff that I have written, I would have to say that I've used all three in the past. 
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| Author: | Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes [ July 8th, 2011, 1:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ethos/Pathos/Logos |
The strongest story would use all three. Tolkien and Lewis and Richard Adams did. The Bible does. There are some things that you have to learn as a whole, rather than in parts. The most extreme case of this is morality: a thief may be as gentle as a lamb, a murderer my be perfectly chaste. I am afraid a character with a depressing past would not intrigue me, even emotionally. Rather what would draw me emotionally is eloquence, and something I can appreciate, such as hobbits, or a warren of rabbits, or a dull, rainy day. I also would not be drawn logically by a detailed world. Indeed, most worlds are so riddled with illogic that they annoy me. What would intrigue me logically would be something that fits together well, for example, a warren of rabbits in modern England Oh ha. Sorry, I hit submit instead of save, the rest will probably come tomorrow. |
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| Author: | Aeleknight [ July 8th, 2011, 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ethos/Pathos/Logos |
I understand that everyone uses all three in their writing. I mean which one do you use most. For me it is probably Logos. Although I use emotion and ethics to pull the reader in I want the reader to understand what is happening as it could happen in this world. In realism. To where they could say: "That makes so much sense" and other things of that extent. I want to make everything in my plot, story, people, culture and creatures make as much sense to the reader as they do to me. I am extremely annoyed by illogical stories. I acknowledge that everyone uses all three, I should have worded the question better. I meant which one speaks best to you being used in your writing. I want logic! All I want is logic! Give me logic! |
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| Author: | Calenmiriel [ July 8th, 2011, 6:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ethos/Pathos/Logos |
I use Pathos (emotional appeal) most often. I'm not a very logical person, so that side of things challenges me personally. Like Bethany was saying, I like relating to a story/character through emotion. I think I use a bit of ethical-ness in my writing as well. ^^ On the other hand, I tend to want to explain everything that's going on in the story so there are no loose ends or questions. I answer questions in my stories that people don't even question me about!  Maybe I am a little logical in there somewhere. ~Calen |
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| Author: | Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes [ July 9th, 2011, 9:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ethos/Pathos/Logos |
What would intrigue me logically would be something that fits together well, for example, a warren of rabbits in modern England is soon to be cleared away for a new building site, and one of the rabbits has the power of foresight, and feels unendurable horror radiating from a notice board the men put up at the site. It is an intriguing idea. It rhymes you could say. It may not be predictable, but you see the connections when you read it. |
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| Author: | Svensteel Mimetes [ July 9th, 2011, 1:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ethos/Pathos/Logos |
I think I really try to pull all of these elements in at the same time rather than going for a single one. |
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| Author: | Zoe M. Scrivener [ July 10th, 2011, 5:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ethos/Pathos/Logos |
I think that I have all of them in my current book to some degree, but pathos is probably the strongest. |
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| Author: | Airianna Valenshia [ July 11th, 2011, 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ethos/Pathos/Logos |
Pathos. I'd say Pathos (good question, by the way). While I use logic and ethics as well, I draw from my own emotions and life experiences to give realism to the emotions being felt by characters. Because I've felt many of the emotions my characters do, from physical suffering to losing a loved one, I find that my strong point is being able to portray those emotions. At least that is my theory. Beta readers would be better at judging people’s work, I think, because they come at it as an unbiased viewer. |
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