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 Post subject: God is Infinite ( A Little Christian Apologetic's)
PostPosted: October 29th, 2013, 10:43 pm 
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I'm sure some of you have read and possibly even disagreed with a number of my rants on this site but I think most of you will like this one.

As Christians we are doomed to be hated by the world, the bible said as much as well in John 15:18-21 which said “If the world hates you, you know that it hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you... If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you... because they do not know Him who sent me." So naturally there will be many who oppose us and our faith. Some of the most common arguments against our God (That I have encountered) aren't really all that well thought out, yet I find it is common for our brothers and sisters to be unprepared to give an argument. Why, because these questions exist to catch you off guard and cause you to question your own intelligence. However if armed properly any Christian could give an airtight argument to send their "Opponent's" mind spinning. Here are a few of these arguments and the natural and simple answers that ultimately strike them down.

Argument: Our universe is massive, and since the earth does not revolve around the sun (Or the earth is not at the middle of our universe) that means God could not possibly care about the earth, and if he does it is no more than a side project.

Answer: God is Infinite, in both mind and form. That means even if we are only a small spec in an infinite multiverse created by his will God can still focus on the earth and humanity to an infinite degree. Even if we are not alone (Which with the existence of angels and demons we are not), there is no reason to believe that God cared any less than if the entire multiverse revolved around our tiny blue pearl.

Argument: Bad things happen to good people, and good things happen to bad people.

Answer: This is bogus, who is to say, who is good and who is bad, are we not all sinners? Furthermore who is to say something bad is truly bad or something good is truly good. In the theist moral viewpoint God alone determines such things. After all do not hardships make us stronger, and an easy life leave us unpaired for hardship? Furthermore the lord said that we would suffer (Just look at the quote above, or maybe the whole book of Job?) However he did say he would always be with us and this is Gods promise.

Argument: God said he would give his believers everything they asked for.

Answer: As far as I know I have received or at least been given a chance to receive everything I have prayed for in one way or another, It is simply a matter of doing as God directs. A wise man I knew in my youth once said "I asked God for patience, and my wife got pregnant". God might never give you exactly what you wanted but he will always give you what you prayed for one way or another, or in most cases open the way for you to receive it. Personally I find praying to my God preferable to a genie in a bottle.

My Moto: don't pray to God to change the world. Pray to God for the strength to change the world. Either way you will only receive the latter.

Argument: Science has dis-proven the existence of God.

Answer: What law of thermodynamics was that again?

Argument: But evolution.

Answer: Explains how species adapt to their surroundings, nothing more, (One could also argue that mutation is an act of God rather than a random phenomenon however the same could be said of all "Random phenomenon" I Would leave out this part as it will be wasted breath on an unbeliever, though the same might be said for all of these arguments)

Argument: But the Big Bang...

Answer :( Through much laughter) Oh, You mean the Theory of the Primordial Atom? The same theory purposed by a Catholic Priest, and is supported by the Catholic Church? The same theory that was argued against by numerous Atheists who refused to except any theory save their precious Steady State Theory Including the "ALL KNOWING STEVEN HAWKINS".http://catholiceducation.org/articles/s ... c0022.html

Argument: But the God Partic...

Answer: You mean the Higs Boson Particle? That's just a particle that suggests the "BIG BANG" happened and as you should well know the Theory of the Primordial Atom does not despite the existence of God.

(Sorry if the last few where a bit snaky, But as a student of science I can’t let these slide)

Argument: But the more we learn about science the smaller your puny God becomes. Because there is less miraculous empty space in our knowledge that you can ignorantly interject your primitive superstitions into?
(Oohhh... He’s getting feisty :roll: )

Answer: Say what? Are you resorting to "God of the Gaps" know isn't that kind-of desperate? After all espousing that argument implies a very basic misunderstanding about Inelegant Design. Which basically states the exact opposite rather the more we know about science the more it appears that a God must have created everything? This in itself could be called assumptive on its own though, I will admit, but is no different from your misguided belief that science proves God does not exist.

Argument: People have tested you "Miracles" and proven they could never happen.

Answer: Tested? How, Scientifically? Sorry but do you even know what a Miracle is? It’s an act of God who in Christian belief does not have to follow our world’s natural laws. Science is the study of our world’s natural laws. Ergo science cannot disprove miracles because they do not have to occur in a natural way. However that does not mean they cannot occur in a natural way. In short it is impossible to disprove Miracles because a Miracle is by its very nature Miraculous.

Argument: If your god told you to kill me, would you?

Answer: If you were hurting someone or planning to do so, or some other unspeakable thing, yes. If not, no because God would never demand such an act without good reason, and if he did? It would not be God making the command but some unholy creature attempting to mimic him. How would I know? Because God is with me and he would make it known to me. (Yes I know this was shameless bait on the Atheist and any answer would be wasted breath but I felt COMPELLED to write this)

Argument: You just ignorant.

Answer: I love you too!

I wrote this primarily as a way to arm Christians with a number of logical answers to a number of Atheist Arguments they may encounter. Even if you don't agree with a lot of the scientific mumbo jumbo hear the answered are still valid as they do in fact prove a point about science and how it does not prove or disprove our Gods existence. For how could the study of the Physical world disprove the existence of the spiritual. Its kind-of like saying sociology can disprove physics.

My Moto: An unquestioned Faith is like an unsharpened Sword, Keep your Sword sharp.

Feel free to add your own Answers to such Questions in this thread.
Questions, Comments, and Concerns.

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 Post subject: Re: God is Infinite ( A Little Christian Apologetic's)
PostPosted: October 29th, 2013, 10:48 pm 
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Sorry cant resist this one.

Argument: SO you believe in a muscle bound old bearded man who lives in the Sky?

Answer: No, I dont happen to believe in Zues, Yahway is more my speed. You know omnipresent and omnipotent not confined by physical laws or restrictions, Exists outside of the restrictions of time and space. Yeah, him.

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PostPosted: October 30th, 2013, 11:08 am 
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DawnBringer wrote:
Argument: Bad things happen to good people, and good things happen to bad people.

Answer: This is bogus, who is to say, who is good and who is bad, are we not all sinners? Furthermore who is to say something bad is truly bad or something good is truly good. In the theist moral viewpoint God alone determines such things.After all do not hardships make us stronger, and an easy life leave us unpaired for hardship? Furthermore the lord said that we would suffer (Just look at the quote above, or maybe the whole book of Job?) However he did say he would always be with us and this is Gods promise.

And there's also the fact that who's to say who is good or bad and what is good or bad without an ultimate truth. I can say what's bad for me, but how can I say that's bad for them?
DawnBringer wrote:

Argument:God said he would give his believers everything they asked for.

Answer: Where? And as far as I know I have received or at least been given a chance to receive everything I have prayed for in one way or another, It is simply a matter of doing as God directs. A wise man I knew in my youth once said "I asked God for patience, and my wife got pregnant". God might never give you exactly what you wanted but he will always give you what you prayed for one way or another, or in most cases open the way for you to receive it. Personally I find praying to my God preferable to a genie in a bottle.

Well, Jesus did say seek and you will find, ask and it will be given to you. But you have a solid answer after that.
DawnBringer wrote:

Argument: You just ignorant.

Answer: I love you too!

This is my favorite. :D :rofl:

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Mine too.

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Wow looking over this their are SO MANY SPELLING MISTAKES! I'm ganna take an hour to fix this.

Done. And sorry for double posting didn't notice I was the last to say anything.

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