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| Author: | Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes [ April 15th, 2011, 9:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | The Beginning of Iniel |
The Beginning of Iniel was not the beginning, but rather, the beginning of Iniel. In the beginning of Iniel was The Light. Because the Light came from outside, and shone inwards, it was The Building Light. The beginning of time is measured from the beginning of The Light. The Light shone first out of the far blackness on a patch of the sea a hundred yards broad. Then it moved along the sea to where a mountain range ran down into the sea without any shore. These were the Oito mountains, whose sides were as steep as a roof top, with snow down even to the water. They were not high mountains. The Light climbed slowly up the mountains sides, and rested at the crest of the mount Otab. There there was a flat land, not so wide as the beam of Light, and beyond it rose the long ridge that was the mountains peak. In the midst of this place stood the Man. He was clothed in a long white robe with a white girdle; his feet and his forearms were bare, and his head was bare. As he stood he held to his mouth a long, thin, silver trumpet. His breast was full, and he was prepared to sound. He awoke. He opened his eyes, and sounded the Trumpet Call. The KrakaNiy, the Cry of The World. All heard it, but not all came... Out of the Dark, out of the Outside to the Inside that came Inward from the Outside of In. |
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| Author: | Andrew Amnon Mimetes [ April 29th, 2011, 7:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Beginning of Iniel |
Your last sentence confused me  Is there anything outside of the Building light? Where did the building light come from?Otab the light isn't the building light, but the sun (or equivalent, as the case may be), correct? So, the Man? Was he created by the Building light? Did the Building light create or merely reveal? eru |
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| Author: | Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes [ April 29th, 2011, 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Beginning of Iniel |
I just noticed a mistake: the last two lines are supposed to be one sentence, but there is a period instead of an ellipse. It should be: All heard it, but not all came... Out of the Dark, out of the Outside to the Inside that came Inward from the Outside of In. I do not know whether that helps, though. I shall draw a graph somehow. But the sentence was meant to be healthily challenging, like a riddle is meant to be challenging. Tsahraf wrote: At the crest of the mount Otab the Light rested. This may not be clear enough. Another way to say it would be: The Light rested at the crest of the mount Otab. eruheran wrote: So, the Man? Was he created by the Building light? Did the Building light create or merely reveal? That is a good question. This may only confuse you more. I am not yet very good at being clear. The Man was not revealed, or merely illuminated, by the Light. He did not exist before, but he did have potential existence. The Light did not create him, because the Light could not choose what the Man would be. Even the Man had a choice limited to what he himself created or set up; he could not choose what he himself would be, or what other men would be or do. Think of it this way: an axe head by itself is not an axe, and neither is an axe haft. And when you put the head on the haft, the haft does not make the head into an axe, and the head does not make the haft into an axe; but because they came together, they are now an axe. The Man was not made what he was by the Light, but still he was what he was because of the Light. |
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| Author: | Constable Jaynin Mimetes [ May 17th, 2011, 9:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Beginning of Iniel |
Let me guess, you read a lot of Tolkien, don't you? And not just Lord of the Rings, but Silmarillion and other of his more... complicated works. Your writing, your riddles, read in a similar style. They're complex, and well thought out, but you're right about not quite knowing how to make things clear. Sometimes your writing is so deep I'm not sure if it's just that I don't understand or that it simply doesn't make sense.  But whichever it is, I really do enjoy it, and I look forward to watching you improve as you find your way into your own skill. |
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| Author: | Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes [ May 18th, 2011, 2:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Beginning of Iniel |
Thank you, you encourage me. O yes, we read a lot of Tolkien. Have you read The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien? They are interesting, not so much because of what he writes, but because of how he writes. He is very humble, and courteous, but independent, and not weakminded. Tsahraf wrote: Out of the Dark, out of the Outside to the Inside that came Inward from the Outside of In. Here is a picture to explain. Attachment: out-in.jpg [ 55.71 KiB | Viewed 2036 times ] In the beginning all was in the Dark, except the Trumpeter, and the small part of the first planet that the Building Light shone on. But when the Trumpeter called, only the Men, the Ehai, came to him on the mount Otab. Of The Lost Giants none came to the First Council. |
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| Author: | Constable Jaynin Mimetes [ May 22nd, 2011, 3:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Beginning of Iniel |
The diagram is fascinating. Thanks! |
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| Author: | Tsahraf ChahsidMimetes [ May 24th, 2011, 1:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Beginning of Iniel |
You are welcome. |
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