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PostPosted: October 28th, 2011, 2:17 pm 
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Welcome to my sub-forum! You are very welcome.

Iniel is extremely large. It is a very real fictional place. It is where the songs of joy and the songs of torment sound on the same wind, and blood and honey drip into the same brook. The dancer dances the Dance of mirth and of mourning.

Iniel is where the Light shines inwards, and is sung by the Trumpeter: Fyüorn

Iniel is divided into six different sorts of places:

1
The Heavenses:
Each Heavens is a mathematically infinite space. There is an indefinite number of Heavenses, that is, no one knows how many there are.

2
The Surfaces:
In between the Heavenses are surface-worlds, also three-dimensional infinite spaces, but these worlds act like the surface between two things, between water and air for example, magnifying, reflecting, distorting, refracting, and so on.

Stars, Earths, and empty spaces fill the Heavenses and the Surfaces.

3
The Spectrum of Existences:
Both the Heavenses and the Surfaces are a part of the spectrum of Existences. As a rough analogy, if light, gravity, size, shape, kinetic and potential energy were all the visible part of the light spectrum, then the rest of the spectrum of Existences would be the rest of the light spectrum.

To travel through the Spectrum of Existences is to vanish out of a world that can be pictured in the mind.

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The Shapeshifters Worlds
The Shapeshifters, as you might expect, are the most varied, mysterious, and complicated of the peoples of Iniel. They are also the most ancient Order of Races.

However, all that I must say here is that some races of Shapeshifters can transform into a portal, with a world beyond it, the inner world of the Shapeshifter.

5
The Worlds of the Dead:
Beyond the whole Spectrum of Existences, yet bound up with it in certain ways, are the Worlds of the Dead. There are different sorts of worlds that are of the Dead; the Afterlives of the Immortal, and the Underworld of the Mortals, are the two main categories.

6
The Outside:
Last of all, there is the Outside: Worldlessness; where there is no space, time, change, or thought, but only what is brought into it by those who meet each-other there.

All of these six as one is my Otherworld, and it is called Iniel.


The inhabitable planets, which are called Earths, are divided into at least five different sorts, and there will probably be more sorts later, and sub-sorts.

1
Round-Sunned:
These Earths are, very simply, like our Earth, in the Familiarworld.

2
Virgate-Sunned (rod shaped):
These Earths have suns that are shaped like a rod, which sits in the center of its system like the axis of a top. So the sun is almost parallel to the horizon, but is usually slanted a little. Sunrises and and sunsets are many times shorter than on round-sunned Earths.

Virgate suns are about the same length compared to their width as a spade handle or hoe handle.

3
Disk-Sunned:
Are Earths with disk shaped suns, which (because they are only seen edgewise) appear very similar to virgate suns except that they rise perpendicularly to the horizon. Sunrises and sunsets are, of course, very slow.

There is something else different about these kinds of Earths, but I do not know what it is yet, I only thought of this kind recently.

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Cone-Sunned:
In these systems the Earth orbits around the cone, which appears as a triangle a little more acute than a right angle, which can point either left or right when you are facing the sunrise.

These Earths are very different in many ways, I will make a thread about them. The most striking difference is the light: it is many times the amount of light on other Earths, but it is no hotter than other Earths, rather it is cooler.

5
Thorn-Sunned:
These have suns that are triangular, but the angle is more acute, it is a thinner triangle. So the sunrises an sunset are short, like on a virgate-sunned Earth.

On these Earths the atmosphere is completely transparent, so the sky is black and full of stars even when the sun is too bright to look at. I will make a thread about these also.

Here are more sorts of Earths (from later in the thread):

Earths without suns: Dark-energy Earths.

1
Corh:
Earths that receive their energy either from a single corh creature (a creature that inhabits the voids), or from many of them. The energy may be received from a distance or delivered in visits to the planet itself.

2
Dark-patar:
These Earths orbit round-suns (non gaseous, round-suns), virgate-suns, disc-suns, cone-suns, and thorn-suns, but these suns do not give visible light. Only gaseous round-suns are like our sun. Non gaseous round-suns, and the rest of the suns I mentioned are solid objects called patar (pronounced like pot-are). Patar that give visible light are called suns along with the sort of sun we are used to, but patar that do not make visible light are called dark-patar.

3
Surface interfaced:
These Earths receive their energy from some source existing in a Surface to which it has access. These energy sources would be extremely varied and strange. Corh supplied Earths could also be Surface interfaced.


The many different races bearing the Image of God are divided into five Orders.

1
Human:
In the Human Order there is only one race, and it is identical to Adams race. But in Iniel the term human only applies to a man that is not of any of the other races.

2
Superman:
A race of Supermen is a race of men with something added or altered; a Superman means a man beyond man.

As examples of Superman races, there are headless men, men with horses heads, men with wings, men with one spiders eye between their eyes, men with hands that are backwards on their wrists, and so on.

3
Gnome:
A race of Gnomes is a race that can have forms of lesser substance, meaning they could disappear, or be indistinct, or be little more than thought.

Or, instead of having lesser substance, they could have a visible form that disagrees with their tangible form. I have only known George Macdonald to use this: in The Princess and Curdie, Curdie is given the power to tell, by feeling a persons hand, what sort of animal that person is at heart (and which he will eventually become): when he feels their hands he feels part of whatever animal they are tending towards, though their hand does not look any different.

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Shapeshifter:
A Shapeshifter race has a Human, Superman, or Gnome form, but can change into at least one other form, which can be practically anything.

Even if some one could have been able to shapeshift, but was disabled, he would still be a Shapeshifter, just as a person may be lame and yet still be human. And if some one gains the ability to shapeshift, but does not inherit the ability from his ancestors, he is not a Shapeshifter.

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Image:
In Iniel it is difficult to make a picture of anything, especially of animals, and more especially of men. Any of the more lifelike images of people can potentially become alive, though not necessarily able to move. And more simple pictures, such as pictographs, can have a lesser kind of power.


These are the basic categories, I will go into the subcategories in other threads: keep a look out for them. When enough of my information is on the sub-forum I will make an index.

Update: I now have an index of threads here:
http://www.holyworlds.org/fantasy/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=7147

This is the same world that I have my Sci-fi in, so there will probably be more information about it in my world sub-forum in the Sci-fi forum here:
http://www.holyworlds.org/scifi/viewforum.php?f=66

Thank you very much for reading my post! Please tell me if you liked it, and if there is something you are particularly interested in finding out more about.

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 Post subject: Re: Introducing you to Iniel (updated)
PostPosted: December 6th, 2011, 6:05 pm 
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A real fictional world. :D So it's a multidimensional world right? Are specific types of people from specific types of worlds? I'm interested to see how the different suns affect everything. I especially like the black sky one.

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PostPosted: December 13th, 2011, 1:44 pm 
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Fascinating, Tsahraf! :D I'd be especially interested in learning more about the Image. I didn't catch whether it was a race or ... what. Forgive me if you've already posted about this, but I only just got here. ;)

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Thank you Lady Eruwaedhiel and Riniel Jasmina!

Riniel Jasmina wrote:
So it's a multidimensional world right?

I suppose so, but I would not know where to put the word multidimensional in a description of Iniel, because it seems that every sort of place I described could be called multidimensional in some sense. I save the term multidimensional for extra spatial dimensions, multidimensional being to three-dimensional what three-dimensional is to one or two dimensions.

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Are specific types of people from specific types of worlds?

Probably all types of people go Outside, and to the Worlds of the Dead.

But only certain types of people can go into the Spectrum of Existences, and there are Heavenses and Surfaces which are only inhabited by a certain type of people, and some types of people never leave their home Heaven or Surface into another Heaven or Surface.

But of course no one can go from Heaven to Heaven without passing through at least one Surface, or go from Surface to Surface without passing through at least one Heaven.

Some Heavenses or Surfaces can only be entered, or only be exited.

The Shapeshifters worlds depend on the Shapeshifter, and are very various.

Riniel Jasmina wrote:
I'm interested to see how the different suns affect everything.

Quite strangely, I assure you.

Riniel Jasmina wrote:
I especially like the black sky one.

I especially like it too, but I have more developed with the Cone-sunned Earths.

Lady Eruwaedhiel wrote:
I'd be especially interested in learning more about the Image. I didn't catch whether it was a race or ... what.

Actually I have not posted anything about races yet. There are so many races I have them sorted into five Orders of races.

So the Human Order has only one race: Human, identical to the human race in the Familiarworld.

The Shapeshifter Order has the most numerous different races, for example the Lost Giants I talked about in my first Introduction to Iniel is only one of the races of Shapeshifters. I believe nearly all the stars are Shapeshifters.

The Superman Order also has numerous races: nose-less men, giants and dwarves of many sorts, triops, people with long toes, etc..

The Gnome Order has less races I believe: invisible men, men that look like one thing and feel like another, dream races, phantom possession of "multiplied thought paths" (like Herbie and Hal), and so on.

The Image Order is unique in that it does not have any "races," but rather different sorts of images, such as constellations, pictures, photographs, videos, statues, dolls, puppets, and so on.

Another unique thing about this Order is that an image does not necessarily bear the Image of God. It may be an image of an animal, plant, or thing, yet it still falls under the Order of Images. It also may be too simple to bear the Image of God (a pictograph of a person for instance, or most snowmen). An image of some races of Supermen cannot bear the Image of God, though the Superman race itself does.

Images of things that do not bear the Image of God have powers and virtues, and sometimes consciousness.

Also, none of the images are part of the First Generation, because the images were all made by other people: none of them existed without being made.

This Order is often counted separately from the first four.

There is my long answer.

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PostPosted: February 16th, 2012, 10:53 am 
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Riniel Jasmina wrote:
I'm interested to see how the different suns affect everything.


Quite strangely, I assure you.

Riniel Jasmina wrote:
I especially like the black sky one.


I especially like it too, but I have more developed with the Cone-sunned Earths.


I now have threads for both thorn-sunned and cone-sunned Earths. They are here:
http://www.holyworlds.org/fantasy/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=5563
http://www.holyworlds.org/fantasy/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=5493

And there are more threads about them in the Sci-fi forum:
http://www.holyworlds.org/scifi/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=1185
http://www.holyworlds.org/scifi/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=1163
http://www.holyworlds.org/scifi/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1184
http://www.holyworlds.org/scifi/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1186


Here are more sorts of Earths:

Earths without suns: Dark-energy Earths.

1
Corh:
Earths that receive their energy either from a single corh creature (a creature that inhabits the voids), or from many of them. The energy may be received from a distance or delivered in visits to the planet itself.

2
Dark-patar:
These Earths orbit round-suns (non gaseous, round-suns), virgate-suns, disc-suns, cone-suns, and thorn-suns, but these suns do not give visible light. Only gaseous round-suns are like our sun. Non gaseous round-suns, and the rest of the suns I mentioned are solid objects called patar (pronounced like pot-are). Patar that give visible light are called suns along with the sort of sun we are used to, but patar that do not make visible light are called dark-patar.

3
Surface interfaced:
These Earths receive their energy from some source existing in a Surface to which it has access. These energy sources would be extremely varied and strange. Corh supplied Earths could also be Surface interfaced.

What do you think?
If you have questions, I will be posting this in the questions thread as well.

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Wow...I don't think you'll ever be running out of story material in this world... :cool:

The supermen are interesting to me. How do they come about? Are they made that way, or do they mutate or somehow get altered?


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Wow...I don't think you'll ever be running out of story material in this world... :cool:
Exactly.

Both (they do not mutate, mutations are only errors in the information that is already present, so mutated people would still be part of the same order as their progenitors). Every Superman race has a story...

I am planning to post a thread for each order eventually. They are all unique. I would say especially... but I would not be able to pick one that was more unique than the others. Even the ways they are unique are unique.

I have so much to post on Holy Worlds, so much to simply type or write some where... The lament of a person with a Mind.

Thank you for commenting, it is very helpful.

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Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.
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Very informative and helpful. :D

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You're welcome, I look forward to exploring more when I have time. :cool: I really like the sound of the supermen...I actually have something somewhat similar in my world, too. :D


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